The Caves of Steel (The Robot Series Book 1)
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wyatt
As always Asimov writes a terrific story. What was surprising is the similarity to today. The Medievalists in many ways are similar to those who today would like to return to the past, one they see through rose-colored glasses. The Spacers want them to reach for a new reality and enjoy a brighter future. The task is convincing those that live in the past to learn to take charge of their destiny and join the modern world's journey to the future!
★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆
katie wood
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I usually round up in my ratings but I feel that this book isn't really close to a 4 to me. Maybe a 3.3. So to make that clear, I'm rounding down my rating.
It was kind of hysterical that Baley kept pulling a "Poirot" and being totally wrong. He would make all these dramatic statements and really think he had it all figured out but would be all wrong. He did this 3 times but ended up being right on the last proclamation. The narrator was good but the chief of police and the wife came off as super whiny. I don't know if this was intentional but I hated it when he would narrate their voices. And Baley having to solve the murder down to the minute (before midnight), I'm sure this was supposed to come off as dramatic but was so lame it was ridiculous. Like R. Daneel or his supervisor would say at exactly 12:01 pm, "Stop, don't tell me who did it. Your time is up."
I read this for my sci-fi book club. I'm sorry to say that I'm finding I don't really like a lot of these classic sci-fi books. Although I do wonder if I would have liked it more if I read this with my teenage brain. My book club is reading Ray Bradbury next who I absolutely loved in high school. I hope I'm not disappointed.
I usually round up in my ratings but I feel that this book isn't really close to a 4 to me. Maybe a 3.3. So to make that clear, I'm rounding down my rating.
It was kind of hysterical that Baley kept pulling a "Poirot" and being totally wrong. He would make all these dramatic statements and really think he had it all figured out but would be all wrong. He did this 3 times but ended up being right on the last proclamation. The narrator was good but the chief of police and the wife came off as super whiny. I don't know if this was intentional but I hated it when he would narrate their voices. And Baley having to solve the murder down to the minute (before midnight), I'm sure this was supposed to come off as dramatic but was so lame it was ridiculous. Like R. Daneel or his supervisor would say at exactly 12:01 pm, "Stop, don't tell me who did it. Your time is up."
I read this for my sci-fi book club. I'm sorry to say that I'm finding I don't really like a lot of these classic sci-fi books. Although I do wonder if I would have liked it more if I read this with my teenage brain. My book club is reading Ray Bradbury next who I absolutely loved in high school. I hope I'm not disappointed.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
caylen
This is the [n]th time I’ve read this book, so obviously, it’s one of my faves! To me, it’s like sliding your feet into your super-comfy slippers or snuggling onto a loveseat with a blanket and hot cocoa on a snowy day, or… but you get the idea.
In a way, this is a classic murder mystery, with a hard-boiled, flawed, yet lovable detective… but it’s also classic science fiction. In my opinion, the mystery is handled well, the ending is satisfying (and surprising) and the characters are some of my favorite characters of all time.
I also love the way the story came about: Asimov liked writing robot short stories where the robot was shown sympathetically instead of in the typical (for that time – early 1950s) negative light of Frankenstein’s monster. His publisher asked for a novel and Asimov wasn’t sure he could write an entire novel about robots. “Sure you can. How about an overpopulated world in which robots are taking over human jobs?” Asimov didn’t want to write a heavy sociological story. His publisher said, “Do it your way. You like mysteries. Put a murder in such a world and have a detective solve it with a robot partner. If the detective doesn’t solve it, the robot will replace him.” And in that way, the fire was lit, and this book was written shortly thereafter. Love it!
Of course, because it was written in the early 1950s, there are “quaint” and definitely outdated views included, but it’s easy for me to look past these… it was written in the 1950s! (I don’t cavil at daughters being “sold off” into marriage in Shakespeare.) But, also because it was written in the 1950s, I marvel at some of the “good guesses” about the future that are included (and naturally, forgive Asimov when the guesses fall short – he didn’t have a crystal ball). Some of these are when he tries to describe what (to me) sounds like a microchip or how Detective Elijah Baley is manipulating an image with his fingers, much the way I might do on my smart phone or touch screen – making it larger or smaller with pinching or expanding motions.
And then, there are the characters… I absolutely love Elijah Baley and his robot partner, Daneel Olivaw – and their interactions. They are the reason I, every couple of years, read all fourteen books in the Robots-Galactic Empire-Foundation series (with one short story thrown in after the first two books which includes Baley and Olivaw). In my opinion, for anyone who is a lover of classic science fiction – and especially for those who love robot stories – this one (and obviously, the next and the next and the next…) is a must read!
In a way, this is a classic murder mystery, with a hard-boiled, flawed, yet lovable detective… but it’s also classic science fiction. In my opinion, the mystery is handled well, the ending is satisfying (and surprising) and the characters are some of my favorite characters of all time.
I also love the way the story came about: Asimov liked writing robot short stories where the robot was shown sympathetically instead of in the typical (for that time – early 1950s) negative light of Frankenstein’s monster. His publisher asked for a novel and Asimov wasn’t sure he could write an entire novel about robots. “Sure you can. How about an overpopulated world in which robots are taking over human jobs?” Asimov didn’t want to write a heavy sociological story. His publisher said, “Do it your way. You like mysteries. Put a murder in such a world and have a detective solve it with a robot partner. If the detective doesn’t solve it, the robot will replace him.” And in that way, the fire was lit, and this book was written shortly thereafter. Love it!
Of course, because it was written in the early 1950s, there are “quaint” and definitely outdated views included, but it’s easy for me to look past these… it was written in the 1950s! (I don’t cavil at daughters being “sold off” into marriage in Shakespeare.) But, also because it was written in the 1950s, I marvel at some of the “good guesses” about the future that are included (and naturally, forgive Asimov when the guesses fall short – he didn’t have a crystal ball). Some of these are when he tries to describe what (to me) sounds like a microchip or how Detective Elijah Baley is manipulating an image with his fingers, much the way I might do on my smart phone or touch screen – making it larger or smaller with pinching or expanding motions.
And then, there are the characters… I absolutely love Elijah Baley and his robot partner, Daneel Olivaw – and their interactions. They are the reason I, every couple of years, read all fourteen books in the Robots-Galactic Empire-Foundation series (with one short story thrown in after the first two books which includes Baley and Olivaw). In my opinion, for anyone who is a lover of classic science fiction – and especially for those who love robot stories – this one (and obviously, the next and the next and the next…) is a must read!
Frankenstein: Prodigal Son: A Novel :: Frankenstein: Lost Souls: A Novel :: Leaving Independence :: Wolf's Head (The Forest Lord Book 1) :: Pre-intermediate Level (Macmillan Reader) (Macmillan Readers) by Isaac Asimov (2008-01-31)
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
emily altheuser
More than eight billion people are on Earth, crowded into enclosed cities. Robots are hated because they are displacing workers. Hundreds of years before, Earthlings emigrated to other planets, advanced in technology, and based their worlds on the use of robots. One spaceport on Earth near New York City is inhabited by "Spacers" and is protected from Earthlings, who clearly dislike them. A Spacer is murdered in Spacetown and Elijah Baley is asked to investigate with an andromorphic robot, R. Daneel Olivaw from Aurora in the Outer Worlds.
The conflict between people and robots can be as contemporary as it is in future Earth. Dr. Stephen Hawking has been quoted as saying that full artificial intelligence could spell the end of the human race, and Asimov's positronic brain portends this.
I read this book after the second one in the series ("The Naked Sun") because it was available first, and I think the second one is better. Baley makes many wrong guesses in this one about who murdered the Spacer, and it seemed to me to drag out the story. However, both books are well worth reading in my opinion because Asimov's ideas can give us a glimpse of how future Earth might become.
The conflict between people and robots can be as contemporary as it is in future Earth. Dr. Stephen Hawking has been quoted as saying that full artificial intelligence could spell the end of the human race, and Asimov's positronic brain portends this.
I read this book after the second one in the series ("The Naked Sun") because it was available first, and I think the second one is better. Baley makes many wrong guesses in this one about who murdered the Spacer, and it seemed to me to drag out the story. However, both books are well worth reading in my opinion because Asimov's ideas can give us a glimpse of how future Earth might become.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
leah sutton
Continuing my Isaac Asimov re-read it is interesting that how much better Caves of Steel , the first of Asimov's 'Robot' novels is compared to the Foundation novels published just a few years prior. Those stories were basically just 'idea' novels, no frills just an exploration of an Idea. Caves of Steel is also about ideas, but here the ideas are background to the main plot, and approached tangentially. Also Elijah Baley is certainly Asimov's most complete character yet, much more rounded than any character in the Foundation trilogy.
The main plot is a murder mystery in which the human protagonist, Elijah Baley is forced to partner with a robot, R. Daneel Olivaw, to solve the crime. R. Daneel Olivaw is not just a robot but a robot who is virtually indistinguishable from a human. The friction between them while they solve the case, allows Asimov to make some subtle (for Asimov) points about bigotry and techno-phobia. The mystery is also fairly well done -which is icing on the cake.
Underneath, the meta-plot as it were, is the future fate of humanity. It is clear to reader that Baley lives in a dystopia, although Asimov doesn't present it explicitly as such. Baley even believes that the 'Cities' (The Caves of Steel of the title) are the ultimate in human progress and ingenuity. The cities are Pruitt-Igoe writ large on a megalopolis scale. Everything is centrally planned and the Bureaucracy runs everything. Housing is assigned, kitchens and bathrooms are communal and food is rationed. All benefits are determined by your 'rating', which can go up or down based on the whims of the Government. In the end Baley comes to believe that humans need to leave Earth and colonize other worlds and that the return to a 'frontier' society can restore that lost spirit of individualism that will allow humanity to escape the stagnation of the 'Cities'.
I should note that though Asimov's writing has improved there are still problems, the characterization of Baley's wife probably being the most egregious. I am not normally too sensitive to that kind of thing but even I could tell how bad it is. But still in my Asimov re-read this is his best effort so far.
The main plot is a murder mystery in which the human protagonist, Elijah Baley is forced to partner with a robot, R. Daneel Olivaw, to solve the crime. R. Daneel Olivaw is not just a robot but a robot who is virtually indistinguishable from a human. The friction between them while they solve the case, allows Asimov to make some subtle (for Asimov) points about bigotry and techno-phobia. The mystery is also fairly well done -which is icing on the cake.
Underneath, the meta-plot as it were, is the future fate of humanity. It is clear to reader that Baley lives in a dystopia, although Asimov doesn't present it explicitly as such. Baley even believes that the 'Cities' (The Caves of Steel of the title) are the ultimate in human progress and ingenuity. The cities are Pruitt-Igoe writ large on a megalopolis scale. Everything is centrally planned and the Bureaucracy runs everything. Housing is assigned, kitchens and bathrooms are communal and food is rationed. All benefits are determined by your 'rating', which can go up or down based on the whims of the Government. In the end Baley comes to believe that humans need to leave Earth and colonize other worlds and that the return to a 'frontier' society can restore that lost spirit of individualism that will allow humanity to escape the stagnation of the 'Cities'.
I should note that though Asimov's writing has improved there are still problems, the characterization of Baley's wife probably being the most egregious. I am not normally too sensitive to that kind of thing but even I could tell how bad it is. But still in my Asimov re-read this is his best effort so far.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
cory bree
In the far distant future, Earth has become vastly overcrowded and the strain on resources has forced humanity into living cheek by jowl in massive closed in cities – the caves of steel of the title. They no longer ever venture into the outside world, having basic robots to do any outside work that's needed. Living accommodation is small – meals are taken in huge communal kitchens and bathing and toileting facilities are all contained in the Personals, again communal and with strict social rules to preserve some semblance of privacy. The Outer Worlds are inhabited by Spacers, the descendants of people from Earth who colonised some of the planets thousands of years earlier. Spacer worlds are the opposite of Earth – underpopulated and disease free. Spacers no longer allow immigration from Earth, guarding the comparative luxury of their lives, along with their health. Naturally, they are resented by the people of Earth.
Spacers have developed much more advanced robots and, with the agreement of the government of Earth, are introducing them into Earth society. The robots are hated since people see them as a threat to their jobs, and loss of a job can mean loss of the few privileges that people can still have – their own washbasin, the right to an occasional meal in their own home. So when a Spacer robotocist is murdered, it seems obvious the culprit will be an Earth person. Elijah Bailey, C-Class Detective is called in to investigate and, to his horror, is partnered with a Spacer robot, R. Daneel Olivaw, so advanced that he can easily pass as human.
This is sci-fi... but it's also a great murder mystery. Proper crime with all different kinds of motivations at work, clues, detection, departmental politics, the works! Asimov wrote it after someone challenged him by saying sci-fi and mystery were incompatible genres. Asimov's own view was that sci-fi can incorporate any literary genre, and this is his proof.
Along with the mystery Asimov creates a fairly chilling view of a possible future if Earth's population continues to increase. It's fairly easy 60 years on to pick holes in some of the things he foresaw, and didn't, and personally, doing that is one of the great pleasures for me. I love that he could create something as sophisticated as the positronic brain – still being used by sci-fi writers as the basis for robots and androids today – but didn't think of the mobile phone, so that poor Lije has to go out to phone boxes in the middle of the night. I love that he claimed that women still stuck to traditional clasps on their purses rather than adopting new-style magnetic catches. (We finally made it, Mr Asimov! We advanced that far!) I love that he came up with a kind of method for information retrieval that sounds not unlike the old punch-card system, but couldn't take the extra leap that would have led him to computers. I love that people happily use all kinds of nuclear devices, cheerfully spraying radiation around as they go. He almost comes up with an e-reader... but not quite...
But the basic idea of an over-populated world where every human activity is carefully regimented and controlled to make best use of dwindling resources is very well done, and the resentment of humans over machines taking over their jobs has proved to be pretty prophetic. The Medievalists who look nostalgically back to a time not unlike the 1950s have more than a little in common with our more fundamentalist back-to-the-earth green groups of today.
One of the other things I love about the Elijah Bailey books is that, although the world is thousands of years older, all the people are stuck in a '50s time-warp. Gee, gosh, the language is simply tremendous! Lije's favourite exclamation is “Jehoshaphat!” - I always find myself using it for weeks after I've read one of the books. The women stay at home, try to look pretty for their husbands and bring up the children, which is all their limited brains and talents are really fit for, while the men go off and do manly things, like science and running about the streets with blasters and such like. So you not only get a look at how Asimov saw the possible future, but you get a real picture of '50s American life thrown in for free.
The plot is great and totally fair-play. Lije's detection methods are a bit on the slapdash side, I admit – basically, he decides whodunit, accuses them, is proved wrong, and then decides it was actually someone else... and so on. But each accusation adds something, both to his future guesswork, and to the reader's understanding of the society he's operating in. And Jehoshaphat! When the solution finally comes, it's a good one!
Golly gee, I hope you read this book. It may be a bit dated, but it's still loads of fun and with plenty of interest to either sci-fi or mystery fans. Jeepers, you'll be sorry if you don't...
Spacers have developed much more advanced robots and, with the agreement of the government of Earth, are introducing them into Earth society. The robots are hated since people see them as a threat to their jobs, and loss of a job can mean loss of the few privileges that people can still have – their own washbasin, the right to an occasional meal in their own home. So when a Spacer robotocist is murdered, it seems obvious the culprit will be an Earth person. Elijah Bailey, C-Class Detective is called in to investigate and, to his horror, is partnered with a Spacer robot, R. Daneel Olivaw, so advanced that he can easily pass as human.
This is sci-fi... but it's also a great murder mystery. Proper crime with all different kinds of motivations at work, clues, detection, departmental politics, the works! Asimov wrote it after someone challenged him by saying sci-fi and mystery were incompatible genres. Asimov's own view was that sci-fi can incorporate any literary genre, and this is his proof.
Along with the mystery Asimov creates a fairly chilling view of a possible future if Earth's population continues to increase. It's fairly easy 60 years on to pick holes in some of the things he foresaw, and didn't, and personally, doing that is one of the great pleasures for me. I love that he could create something as sophisticated as the positronic brain – still being used by sci-fi writers as the basis for robots and androids today – but didn't think of the mobile phone, so that poor Lije has to go out to phone boxes in the middle of the night. I love that he claimed that women still stuck to traditional clasps on their purses rather than adopting new-style magnetic catches. (We finally made it, Mr Asimov! We advanced that far!) I love that he came up with a kind of method for information retrieval that sounds not unlike the old punch-card system, but couldn't take the extra leap that would have led him to computers. I love that people happily use all kinds of nuclear devices, cheerfully spraying radiation around as they go. He almost comes up with an e-reader... but not quite...
But the basic idea of an over-populated world where every human activity is carefully regimented and controlled to make best use of dwindling resources is very well done, and the resentment of humans over machines taking over their jobs has proved to be pretty prophetic. The Medievalists who look nostalgically back to a time not unlike the 1950s have more than a little in common with our more fundamentalist back-to-the-earth green groups of today.
One of the other things I love about the Elijah Bailey books is that, although the world is thousands of years older, all the people are stuck in a '50s time-warp. Gee, gosh, the language is simply tremendous! Lije's favourite exclamation is “Jehoshaphat!” - I always find myself using it for weeks after I've read one of the books. The women stay at home, try to look pretty for their husbands and bring up the children, which is all their limited brains and talents are really fit for, while the men go off and do manly things, like science and running about the streets with blasters and such like. So you not only get a look at how Asimov saw the possible future, but you get a real picture of '50s American life thrown in for free.
The plot is great and totally fair-play. Lije's detection methods are a bit on the slapdash side, I admit – basically, he decides whodunit, accuses them, is proved wrong, and then decides it was actually someone else... and so on. But each accusation adds something, both to his future guesswork, and to the reader's understanding of the society he's operating in. And Jehoshaphat! When the solution finally comes, it's a good one!
Golly gee, I hope you read this book. It may be a bit dated, but it's still loads of fun and with plenty of interest to either sci-fi or mystery fans. Jeepers, you'll be sorry if you don't...
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
noella
Classic sci-fi doesn't get more classic that Isaac Asimov, and Asimov classics don't get more classic that his Robot trilogy. I recently listened to the audio version of The Caves of Steel, book 1 of Asimov's Robot Series. I had read it years ago, and was not disappointed in the audio update.
On one level, this is a simple detective story. New York detective Elijah Baley is teamed up with a new partner, R. Daneel Olivaw, to solve the murder of a robotocist. The twist: Daneel is a robot himself! As Elijah and Daneel track down leads and learn to work together, Asimov builds a future world that is both imaginative and prophetic.
This audio version is great. It's a straight, single-actor reading, not a dramatization, but William Dufris pulls off the narration perfectly. His voicing of Daneel brought to mind Star Trek's Data, which is appropriate, as Data is clearly modeled after Asimov's vision of a robotic future.
If you've never read Asimov, this is a great place to start. If you have, he's always worth returning to!
On one level, this is a simple detective story. New York detective Elijah Baley is teamed up with a new partner, R. Daneel Olivaw, to solve the murder of a robotocist. The twist: Daneel is a robot himself! As Elijah and Daneel track down leads and learn to work together, Asimov builds a future world that is both imaginative and prophetic.
This audio version is great. It's a straight, single-actor reading, not a dramatization, but William Dufris pulls off the narration perfectly. His voicing of Daneel brought to mind Star Trek's Data, which is appropriate, as Data is clearly modeled after Asimov's vision of a robotic future.
If you've never read Asimov, this is a great place to start. If you have, he's always worth returning to!
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
jessica tyler
.“The Caves of Steel” is a 1954 novel by Isaac Asimov, the first of his three robot/detective novels. In it, he pairs an Earthman with a robot as fellow investigators in a murder investigation.
But what I found fascinating about this book (after re-reading it some 40 years after first reading it as a kid) is that Asimov touches on a host of other social and political issues of the day- the early 1950’s. You don’t have to look to hard to find that the book, like Orwell’s 1984 and Huxley’s Brave New World, shows us a bit what a socialist Earth would have looked like. Here, everyone is crowded together in cities under giant domes. There is very little privacy and even private bathrooms are often unknown. Most people eat in large communal dining halls and rarely have permission to eat in their own homes. Many things are not available for purchase and must be obtained with permission and with special permits. Everyone seems to be assigned housing and jobs according to some central plan and bureaucracy. Another thing that stood out in re-reading this work is that the attitude of Earthlings to robots and spacers seems rooted in prejudices and there are some parallels with civil rights which was a heated issue in the 1950’s.
Interestingly, Asimov’s social commentary is not a major plotline and is almost missed with a focus on the murder mystery and the strange world of the future that he has created.
Above all, this science fiction-robotic-murder-mystery is eminently readable and a quite an enjoyable read. Eljiah Bailey and R Daneel Olivaw have a captivating relationship. In all, Asimov continued this pair in The Naked Sun (1955) and then many years later in the Robots of Dawn (1983) and Robots and Empire, which featured Olivaw, not Bailey.
But what I found fascinating about this book (after re-reading it some 40 years after first reading it as a kid) is that Asimov touches on a host of other social and political issues of the day- the early 1950’s. You don’t have to look to hard to find that the book, like Orwell’s 1984 and Huxley’s Brave New World, shows us a bit what a socialist Earth would have looked like. Here, everyone is crowded together in cities under giant domes. There is very little privacy and even private bathrooms are often unknown. Most people eat in large communal dining halls and rarely have permission to eat in their own homes. Many things are not available for purchase and must be obtained with permission and with special permits. Everyone seems to be assigned housing and jobs according to some central plan and bureaucracy. Another thing that stood out in re-reading this work is that the attitude of Earthlings to robots and spacers seems rooted in prejudices and there are some parallels with civil rights which was a heated issue in the 1950’s.
Interestingly, Asimov’s social commentary is not a major plotline and is almost missed with a focus on the murder mystery and the strange world of the future that he has created.
Above all, this science fiction-robotic-murder-mystery is eminently readable and a quite an enjoyable read. Eljiah Bailey and R Daneel Olivaw have a captivating relationship. In all, Asimov continued this pair in The Naked Sun (1955) and then many years later in the Robots of Dawn (1983) and Robots and Empire, which featured Olivaw, not Bailey.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
naghmeh rastegar
I read this book as a kid, and became an instant Asimov devotee.
Asimov worked through some basic laws of robotics that are still quoted and referenced today. He was a true pioneer in this field- and many others.
In the beginning we have a NYC detective-Elijah Bailey investigating the murder of a prominent citizen. As he investigates he comes to the conclusion that a robot was responsible. THis is thought to be impossible since hardwired into all robots is the restriction that that no robot can harm a human. This is a classic tale as Asimov worked through a lot of situations that later writers drew upon for their own stories.
One of the things that makes this story so memorable is Asimov's attempts to ferret out how machines and humans will interact as the machines become more complex.
if you are a fan of stories depicting the increasing complexity of human and machine interaction, then this book is for you.
Highly recommmended.
Asimov worked through some basic laws of robotics that are still quoted and referenced today. He was a true pioneer in this field- and many others.
In the beginning we have a NYC detective-Elijah Bailey investigating the murder of a prominent citizen. As he investigates he comes to the conclusion that a robot was responsible. THis is thought to be impossible since hardwired into all robots is the restriction that that no robot can harm a human. This is a classic tale as Asimov worked through a lot of situations that later writers drew upon for their own stories.
One of the things that makes this story so memorable is Asimov's attempts to ferret out how machines and humans will interact as the machines become more complex.
if you are a fan of stories depicting the increasing complexity of human and machine interaction, then this book is for you.
Highly recommmended.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
helen hannigan
I've been meaning to dive into Asimov's groundbreaking Robot series for some time, and finally got around to reading this first book last year. It's classic Golden Age science fiction, full of amazing possibilities, yet tinged with noir overtones that drive the action toward a solution I for one didn't see coming.
It may sound like the setup to a contemporary distopia, and yet Asimov paints a more realistic picture than his darker counterparts by having all forms of reaction to this world: positive, negative, indifferent, and everywhere in between.
This range of human emotion is best expressed by the protagonist Detective Elijah "Lije" Baley. He's a classic hard-boiled crime fighter dropped into a future crowded city, distrustful of many and yet open to new ideas. He's not best pleased to get saddled with his robot partner R. Daneel Olivaw to solve a spacer's murder, but he pursues his goal with single-minded ferocity despite a number of plausible red herrings thrown in his path.
The dynamic relationship Baley and Olivaw share throughout the novel paves the way for many successors to come, but still reads like a fresh invention. Like with any Asimov tale, the world itself is alive with discovery. The scene where these two partners dodge passengers along crisscrossing, multistoried moving sidewalks in pursuit of a suspect practically begs for a cinematic treatment, while the various levels of the steel cave are gradually peeled back one by one.
Incredibly, Asimov even avoids the usual science fiction fallacy of pretending religion will vanish like some exotic animal in the future. Not only do humans still espouse various beliefs in this brave and burgeoning new world, but such traditions impact the story in a climatic moment that offers hope not just for the protagonists but the world and its future.
Combining action, philosophy, a pinch of romance and a good mystery, "Caves of Steel" offers something for every level of science fiction fan. It's a genre classic that offers a foundation for things to come and yet stands as a great work in its own right.
It may sound like the setup to a contemporary distopia, and yet Asimov paints a more realistic picture than his darker counterparts by having all forms of reaction to this world: positive, negative, indifferent, and everywhere in between.
This range of human emotion is best expressed by the protagonist Detective Elijah "Lije" Baley. He's a classic hard-boiled crime fighter dropped into a future crowded city, distrustful of many and yet open to new ideas. He's not best pleased to get saddled with his robot partner R. Daneel Olivaw to solve a spacer's murder, but he pursues his goal with single-minded ferocity despite a number of plausible red herrings thrown in his path.
The dynamic relationship Baley and Olivaw share throughout the novel paves the way for many successors to come, but still reads like a fresh invention. Like with any Asimov tale, the world itself is alive with discovery. The scene where these two partners dodge passengers along crisscrossing, multistoried moving sidewalks in pursuit of a suspect practically begs for a cinematic treatment, while the various levels of the steel cave are gradually peeled back one by one.
Incredibly, Asimov even avoids the usual science fiction fallacy of pretending religion will vanish like some exotic animal in the future. Not only do humans still espouse various beliefs in this brave and burgeoning new world, but such traditions impact the story in a climatic moment that offers hope not just for the protagonists but the world and its future.
Combining action, philosophy, a pinch of romance and a good mystery, "Caves of Steel" offers something for every level of science fiction fan. It's a genre classic that offers a foundation for things to come and yet stands as a great work in its own right.
★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆
maryjane
Audiobook
I usually round up in my ratings but I feel that this book isn't really close to a 4 to me. Maybe a 3.3. So to make that clear, I'm rounding down my rating.
It was kind of hysterical that Baley kept pulling a "Poirot" and being totally wrong. He would make all these dramatic statements and really think he had it all figured out but would be all wrong. He did this 3 times but ended up being right on the last proclamation. The narrator was good but the chief of police and the wife came off as super whiny. I don't know if this was intentional but I hated it when he would narrate their voices. And Baley having to solve the murder down to the minute (before midnight), I'm sure this was supposed to come off as dramatic but was so lame it was ridiculous. Like R. Daneel or his supervisor would say at exactly 12:01 pm, "Stop, don't tell me who did it. Your time is up."
I read this for my sci-fi book club. I'm sorry to say that I'm finding I don't really like a lot of these classic sci-fi books. Although I do wonder if I would have liked it more if I read this with my teenage brain. My book club is reading Ray Bradbury next who I absolutely loved in high school. I hope I'm not disappointed.
I usually round up in my ratings but I feel that this book isn't really close to a 4 to me. Maybe a 3.3. So to make that clear, I'm rounding down my rating.
It was kind of hysterical that Baley kept pulling a "Poirot" and being totally wrong. He would make all these dramatic statements and really think he had it all figured out but would be all wrong. He did this 3 times but ended up being right on the last proclamation. The narrator was good but the chief of police and the wife came off as super whiny. I don't know if this was intentional but I hated it when he would narrate their voices. And Baley having to solve the murder down to the minute (before midnight), I'm sure this was supposed to come off as dramatic but was so lame it was ridiculous. Like R. Daneel or his supervisor would say at exactly 12:01 pm, "Stop, don't tell me who did it. Your time is up."
I read this for my sci-fi book club. I'm sorry to say that I'm finding I don't really like a lot of these classic sci-fi books. Although I do wonder if I would have liked it more if I read this with my teenage brain. My book club is reading Ray Bradbury next who I absolutely loved in high school. I hope I'm not disappointed.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
laurie williams
This is the [n]th time I’ve read this book, so obviously, it’s one of my faves! To me, it’s like sliding your feet into your super-comfy slippers or snuggling onto a loveseat with a blanket and hot cocoa on a snowy day, or… but you get the idea.
In a way, this is a classic murder mystery, with a hard-boiled, flawed, yet lovable detective… but it’s also classic science fiction. In my opinion, the mystery is handled well, the ending is satisfying (and surprising) and the characters are some of my favorite characters of all time.
I also love the way the story came about: Asimov liked writing robot short stories where the robot was shown sympathetically instead of in the typical (for that time – early 1950s) negative light of Frankenstein’s monster. His publisher asked for a novel and Asimov wasn’t sure he could write an entire novel about robots. “Sure you can. How about an overpopulated world in which robots are taking over human jobs?” Asimov didn’t want to write a heavy sociological story. His publisher said, “Do it your way. You like mysteries. Put a murder in such a world and have a detective solve it with a robot partner. If the detective doesn’t solve it, the robot will replace him.” And in that way, the fire was lit, and this book was written shortly thereafter. Love it!
Of course, because it was written in the early 1950s, there are “quaint” and definitely outdated views included, but it’s easy for me to look past these… it was written in the 1950s! (I don’t cavil at daughters being “sold off” into marriage in Shakespeare.) But, also because it was written in the 1950s, I marvel at some of the “good guesses” about the future that are included (and naturally, forgive Asimov when the guesses fall short – he didn’t have a crystal ball). Some of these are when he tries to describe what (to me) sounds like a microchip or how Detective Elijah Baley is manipulating an image with his fingers, much the way I might do on my smart phone or touch screen – making it larger or smaller with pinching or expanding motions.
And then, there are the characters… I absolutely love Elijah Baley and his robot partner, Daneel Olivaw – and their interactions. They are the reason I, every couple of years, read all fourteen books in the Robots-Galactic Empire-Foundation series (with one short story thrown in after the first two books which includes Baley and Olivaw). In my opinion, for anyone who is a lover of classic science fiction – and especially for those who love robot stories – this one (and obviously, the next and the next and the next…) is a must read!
In a way, this is a classic murder mystery, with a hard-boiled, flawed, yet lovable detective… but it’s also classic science fiction. In my opinion, the mystery is handled well, the ending is satisfying (and surprising) and the characters are some of my favorite characters of all time.
I also love the way the story came about: Asimov liked writing robot short stories where the robot was shown sympathetically instead of in the typical (for that time – early 1950s) negative light of Frankenstein’s monster. His publisher asked for a novel and Asimov wasn’t sure he could write an entire novel about robots. “Sure you can. How about an overpopulated world in which robots are taking over human jobs?” Asimov didn’t want to write a heavy sociological story. His publisher said, “Do it your way. You like mysteries. Put a murder in such a world and have a detective solve it with a robot partner. If the detective doesn’t solve it, the robot will replace him.” And in that way, the fire was lit, and this book was written shortly thereafter. Love it!
Of course, because it was written in the early 1950s, there are “quaint” and definitely outdated views included, but it’s easy for me to look past these… it was written in the 1950s! (I don’t cavil at daughters being “sold off” into marriage in Shakespeare.) But, also because it was written in the 1950s, I marvel at some of the “good guesses” about the future that are included (and naturally, forgive Asimov when the guesses fall short – he didn’t have a crystal ball). Some of these are when he tries to describe what (to me) sounds like a microchip or how Detective Elijah Baley is manipulating an image with his fingers, much the way I might do on my smart phone or touch screen – making it larger or smaller with pinching or expanding motions.
And then, there are the characters… I absolutely love Elijah Baley and his robot partner, Daneel Olivaw – and their interactions. They are the reason I, every couple of years, read all fourteen books in the Robots-Galactic Empire-Foundation series (with one short story thrown in after the first two books which includes Baley and Olivaw). In my opinion, for anyone who is a lover of classic science fiction – and especially for those who love robot stories – this one (and obviously, the next and the next and the next…) is a must read!
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
orges
More than eight billion people are on Earth, crowded into enclosed cities. Robots are hated because they are displacing workers. Hundreds of years before, Earthlings emigrated to other planets, advanced in technology, and based their worlds on the use of robots. One spaceport on Earth near New York City is inhabited by "Spacers" and is protected from Earthlings, who clearly dislike them. A Spacer is murdered in Spacetown and Elijah Baley is asked to investigate with an andromorphic robot, R. Daneel Olivaw from Aurora in the Outer Worlds.
The conflict between people and robots can be as contemporary as it is in future Earth. Dr. Stephen Hawking has been quoted as saying that full artificial intelligence could spell the end of the human race, and Asimov's positronic brain portends this.
I read this book after the second one in the series ("The Naked Sun") because it was available first, and I think the second one is better. Baley makes many wrong guesses in this one about who murdered the Spacer, and it seemed to me to drag out the story. However, both books are well worth reading in my opinion because Asimov's ideas can give us a glimpse of how future Earth might become.
The conflict between people and robots can be as contemporary as it is in future Earth. Dr. Stephen Hawking has been quoted as saying that full artificial intelligence could spell the end of the human race, and Asimov's positronic brain portends this.
I read this book after the second one in the series ("The Naked Sun") because it was available first, and I think the second one is better. Baley makes many wrong guesses in this one about who murdered the Spacer, and it seemed to me to drag out the story. However, both books are well worth reading in my opinion because Asimov's ideas can give us a glimpse of how future Earth might become.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
thatpickledreader
Continuing my Isaac Asimov re-read it is interesting that how much better Caves of Steel , the first of Asimov's 'Robot' novels is compared to the Foundation novels published just a few years prior. Those stories were basically just 'idea' novels, no frills just an exploration of an Idea. Caves of Steel is also about ideas, but here the ideas are background to the main plot, and approached tangentially. Also Elijah Baley is certainly Asimov's most complete character yet, much more rounded than any character in the Foundation trilogy.
The main plot is a murder mystery in which the human protagonist, Elijah Baley is forced to partner with a robot, R. Daneel Olivaw, to solve the crime. R. Daneel Olivaw is not just a robot but a robot who is virtually indistinguishable from a human. The friction between them while they solve the case, allows Asimov to make some subtle (for Asimov) points about bigotry and techno-phobia. The mystery is also fairly well done -which is icing on the cake.
Underneath, the meta-plot as it were, is the future fate of humanity. It is clear to reader that Baley lives in a dystopia, although Asimov doesn't present it explicitly as such. Baley even believes that the 'Cities' (The Caves of Steel of the title) are the ultimate in human progress and ingenuity. The cities are Pruitt-Igoe writ large on a megalopolis scale. Everything is centrally planned and the Bureaucracy runs everything. Housing is assigned, kitchens and bathrooms are communal and food is rationed. All benefits are determined by your 'rating', which can go up or down based on the whims of the Government. In the end Baley comes to believe that humans need to leave Earth and colonize other worlds and that the return to a 'frontier' society can restore that lost spirit of individualism that will allow humanity to escape the stagnation of the 'Cities'.
I should note that though Asimov's writing has improved there are still problems, the characterization of Baley's wife probably being the most egregious. I am not normally too sensitive to that kind of thing but even I could tell how bad it is. But still in my Asimov re-read this is his best effort so far.
The main plot is a murder mystery in which the human protagonist, Elijah Baley is forced to partner with a robot, R. Daneel Olivaw, to solve the crime. R. Daneel Olivaw is not just a robot but a robot who is virtually indistinguishable from a human. The friction between them while they solve the case, allows Asimov to make some subtle (for Asimov) points about bigotry and techno-phobia. The mystery is also fairly well done -which is icing on the cake.
Underneath, the meta-plot as it were, is the future fate of humanity. It is clear to reader that Baley lives in a dystopia, although Asimov doesn't present it explicitly as such. Baley even believes that the 'Cities' (The Caves of Steel of the title) are the ultimate in human progress and ingenuity. The cities are Pruitt-Igoe writ large on a megalopolis scale. Everything is centrally planned and the Bureaucracy runs everything. Housing is assigned, kitchens and bathrooms are communal and food is rationed. All benefits are determined by your 'rating', which can go up or down based on the whims of the Government. In the end Baley comes to believe that humans need to leave Earth and colonize other worlds and that the return to a 'frontier' society can restore that lost spirit of individualism that will allow humanity to escape the stagnation of the 'Cities'.
I should note that though Asimov's writing has improved there are still problems, the characterization of Baley's wife probably being the most egregious. I am not normally too sensitive to that kind of thing but even I could tell how bad it is. But still in my Asimov re-read this is his best effort so far.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
andrew said
In the far distant future, Earth has become vastly overcrowded and the strain on resources has forced humanity into living cheek by jowl in massive closed in cities – the caves of steel of the title. They no longer ever venture into the outside world, having basic robots to do any outside work that's needed. Living accommodation is small – meals are taken in huge communal kitchens and bathing and toileting facilities are all contained in the Personals, again communal and with strict social rules to preserve some semblance of privacy. The Outer Worlds are inhabited by Spacers, the descendants of people from Earth who colonised some of the planets thousands of years earlier. Spacer worlds are the opposite of Earth – underpopulated and disease free. Spacers no longer allow immigration from Earth, guarding the comparative luxury of their lives, along with their health. Naturally, they are resented by the people of Earth.
Spacers have developed much more advanced robots and, with the agreement of the government of Earth, are introducing them into Earth society. The robots are hated since people see them as a threat to their jobs, and loss of a job can mean loss of the few privileges that people can still have – their own washbasin, the right to an occasional meal in their own home. So when a Spacer robotocist is murdered, it seems obvious the culprit will be an Earth person. Elijah Bailey, C-Class Detective is called in to investigate and, to his horror, is partnered with a Spacer robot, R. Daneel Olivaw, so advanced that he can easily pass as human.
This is sci-fi... but it's also a great murder mystery. Proper crime with all different kinds of motivations at work, clues, detection, departmental politics, the works! Asimov wrote it after someone challenged him by saying sci-fi and mystery were incompatible genres. Asimov's own view was that sci-fi can incorporate any literary genre, and this is his proof.
Along with the mystery Asimov creates a fairly chilling view of a possible future if Earth's population continues to increase. It's fairly easy 60 years on to pick holes in some of the things he foresaw, and didn't, and personally, doing that is one of the great pleasures for me. I love that he could create something as sophisticated as the positronic brain – still being used by sci-fi writers as the basis for robots and androids today – but didn't think of the mobile phone, so that poor Lije has to go out to phone boxes in the middle of the night. I love that he claimed that women still stuck to traditional clasps on their purses rather than adopting new-style magnetic catches. (We finally made it, Mr Asimov! We advanced that far!) I love that he came up with a kind of method for information retrieval that sounds not unlike the old punch-card system, but couldn't take the extra leap that would have led him to computers. I love that people happily use all kinds of nuclear devices, cheerfully spraying radiation around as they go. He almost comes up with an e-reader... but not quite...
But the basic idea of an over-populated world where every human activity is carefully regimented and controlled to make best use of dwindling resources is very well done, and the resentment of humans over machines taking over their jobs has proved to be pretty prophetic. The Medievalists who look nostalgically back to a time not unlike the 1950s have more than a little in common with our more fundamentalist back-to-the-earth green groups of today.
One of the other things I love about the Elijah Bailey books is that, although the world is thousands of years older, all the people are stuck in a '50s time-warp. Gee, gosh, the language is simply tremendous! Lije's favourite exclamation is “Jehoshaphat!” - I always find myself using it for weeks after I've read one of the books. The women stay at home, try to look pretty for their husbands and bring up the children, which is all their limited brains and talents are really fit for, while the men go off and do manly things, like science and running about the streets with blasters and such like. So you not only get a look at how Asimov saw the possible future, but you get a real picture of '50s American life thrown in for free.
The plot is great and totally fair-play. Lije's detection methods are a bit on the slapdash side, I admit – basically, he decides whodunit, accuses them, is proved wrong, and then decides it was actually someone else... and so on. But each accusation adds something, both to his future guesswork, and to the reader's understanding of the society he's operating in. And Jehoshaphat! When the solution finally comes, it's a good one!
Golly gee, I hope you read this book. It may be a bit dated, but it's still loads of fun and with plenty of interest to either sci-fi or mystery fans. Jeepers, you'll be sorry if you don't...
Spacers have developed much more advanced robots and, with the agreement of the government of Earth, are introducing them into Earth society. The robots are hated since people see them as a threat to their jobs, and loss of a job can mean loss of the few privileges that people can still have – their own washbasin, the right to an occasional meal in their own home. So when a Spacer robotocist is murdered, it seems obvious the culprit will be an Earth person. Elijah Bailey, C-Class Detective is called in to investigate and, to his horror, is partnered with a Spacer robot, R. Daneel Olivaw, so advanced that he can easily pass as human.
This is sci-fi... but it's also a great murder mystery. Proper crime with all different kinds of motivations at work, clues, detection, departmental politics, the works! Asimov wrote it after someone challenged him by saying sci-fi and mystery were incompatible genres. Asimov's own view was that sci-fi can incorporate any literary genre, and this is his proof.
Along with the mystery Asimov creates a fairly chilling view of a possible future if Earth's population continues to increase. It's fairly easy 60 years on to pick holes in some of the things he foresaw, and didn't, and personally, doing that is one of the great pleasures for me. I love that he could create something as sophisticated as the positronic brain – still being used by sci-fi writers as the basis for robots and androids today – but didn't think of the mobile phone, so that poor Lije has to go out to phone boxes in the middle of the night. I love that he claimed that women still stuck to traditional clasps on their purses rather than adopting new-style magnetic catches. (We finally made it, Mr Asimov! We advanced that far!) I love that he came up with a kind of method for information retrieval that sounds not unlike the old punch-card system, but couldn't take the extra leap that would have led him to computers. I love that people happily use all kinds of nuclear devices, cheerfully spraying radiation around as they go. He almost comes up with an e-reader... but not quite...
But the basic idea of an over-populated world where every human activity is carefully regimented and controlled to make best use of dwindling resources is very well done, and the resentment of humans over machines taking over their jobs has proved to be pretty prophetic. The Medievalists who look nostalgically back to a time not unlike the 1950s have more than a little in common with our more fundamentalist back-to-the-earth green groups of today.
One of the other things I love about the Elijah Bailey books is that, although the world is thousands of years older, all the people are stuck in a '50s time-warp. Gee, gosh, the language is simply tremendous! Lije's favourite exclamation is “Jehoshaphat!” - I always find myself using it for weeks after I've read one of the books. The women stay at home, try to look pretty for their husbands and bring up the children, which is all their limited brains and talents are really fit for, while the men go off and do manly things, like science and running about the streets with blasters and such like. So you not only get a look at how Asimov saw the possible future, but you get a real picture of '50s American life thrown in for free.
The plot is great and totally fair-play. Lije's detection methods are a bit on the slapdash side, I admit – basically, he decides whodunit, accuses them, is proved wrong, and then decides it was actually someone else... and so on. But each accusation adds something, both to his future guesswork, and to the reader's understanding of the society he's operating in. And Jehoshaphat! When the solution finally comes, it's a good one!
Golly gee, I hope you read this book. It may be a bit dated, but it's still loads of fun and with plenty of interest to either sci-fi or mystery fans. Jeepers, you'll be sorry if you don't...
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
alyssa pohlman
As always Asimov writes a terrific story. What was surprising is the similarity to today. The Medievalists in many ways are similar to those who today would like to return to the past, one they see through rose-colored glasses. The Spacers want them to reach for a new reality and enjoy a brighter future. The task is convincing those that live in the past to learn to take charge of their destiny and join the modern world's journey to the future!
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
rekha kini
Classic sci-fi doesn't get more classic that Isaac Asimov, and Asimov classics don't get more classic that his Robot trilogy. I recently listened to the audio version of The Caves of Steel, book 1 of Asimov's Robot Series. I had read it years ago, and was not disappointed in the audio update.
On one level, this is a simple detective story. New York detective Elijah Baley is teamed up with a new partner, R. Daneel Olivaw, to solve the murder of a robotocist. The twist: Daneel is a robot himself! As Elijah and Daneel track down leads and learn to work together, Asimov builds a future world that is both imaginative and prophetic.
This audio version is great. It's a straight, single-actor reading, not a dramatization, but William Dufris pulls off the narration perfectly. His voicing of Daneel brought to mind Star Trek's Data, which is appropriate, as Data is clearly modeled after Asimov's vision of a robotic future.
If you've never read Asimov, this is a great place to start. If you have, he's always worth returning to!
On one level, this is a simple detective story. New York detective Elijah Baley is teamed up with a new partner, R. Daneel Olivaw, to solve the murder of a robotocist. The twist: Daneel is a robot himself! As Elijah and Daneel track down leads and learn to work together, Asimov builds a future world that is both imaginative and prophetic.
This audio version is great. It's a straight, single-actor reading, not a dramatization, but William Dufris pulls off the narration perfectly. His voicing of Daneel brought to mind Star Trek's Data, which is appropriate, as Data is clearly modeled after Asimov's vision of a robotic future.
If you've never read Asimov, this is a great place to start. If you have, he's always worth returning to!
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
georgy
.“The Caves of Steel” is a 1954 novel by Isaac Asimov, the first of his three robot/detective novels. In it, he pairs an Earthman with a robot as fellow investigators in a murder investigation.
But what I found fascinating about this book (after re-reading it some 40 years after first reading it as a kid) is that Asimov touches on a host of other social and political issues of the day- the early 1950’s. You don’t have to look to hard to find that the book, like Orwell’s 1984 and Huxley’s Brave New World, shows us a bit what a socialist Earth would have looked like. Here, everyone is crowded together in cities under giant domes. There is very little privacy and even private bathrooms are often unknown. Most people eat in large communal dining halls and rarely have permission to eat in their own homes. Many things are not available for purchase and must be obtained with permission and with special permits. Everyone seems to be assigned housing and jobs according to some central plan and bureaucracy. Another thing that stood out in re-reading this work is that the attitude of Earthlings to robots and spacers seems rooted in prejudices and there are some parallels with civil rights which was a heated issue in the 1950’s.
Interestingly, Asimov’s social commentary is not a major plotline and is almost missed with a focus on the murder mystery and the strange world of the future that he has created.
Above all, this science fiction-robotic-murder-mystery is eminently readable and a quite an enjoyable read. Eljiah Bailey and R Daneel Olivaw have a captivating relationship. In all, Asimov continued this pair in The Naked Sun (1955) and then many years later in the Robots of Dawn (1983) and Robots and Empire, which featured Olivaw, not Bailey.
But what I found fascinating about this book (after re-reading it some 40 years after first reading it as a kid) is that Asimov touches on a host of other social and political issues of the day- the early 1950’s. You don’t have to look to hard to find that the book, like Orwell’s 1984 and Huxley’s Brave New World, shows us a bit what a socialist Earth would have looked like. Here, everyone is crowded together in cities under giant domes. There is very little privacy and even private bathrooms are often unknown. Most people eat in large communal dining halls and rarely have permission to eat in their own homes. Many things are not available for purchase and must be obtained with permission and with special permits. Everyone seems to be assigned housing and jobs according to some central plan and bureaucracy. Another thing that stood out in re-reading this work is that the attitude of Earthlings to robots and spacers seems rooted in prejudices and there are some parallels with civil rights which was a heated issue in the 1950’s.
Interestingly, Asimov’s social commentary is not a major plotline and is almost missed with a focus on the murder mystery and the strange world of the future that he has created.
Above all, this science fiction-robotic-murder-mystery is eminently readable and a quite an enjoyable read. Eljiah Bailey and R Daneel Olivaw have a captivating relationship. In all, Asimov continued this pair in The Naked Sun (1955) and then many years later in the Robots of Dawn (1983) and Robots and Empire, which featured Olivaw, not Bailey.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
daisy
I read this book as a kid, and became an instant Asimov devotee.
Asimov worked through some basic laws of robotics that are still quoted and referenced today. He was a true pioneer in this field- and many others.
In the beginning we have a NYC detective-Elijah Bailey investigating the murder of a prominent citizen. As he investigates he comes to the conclusion that a robot was responsible. THis is thought to be impossible since hardwired into all robots is the restriction that that no robot can harm a human. This is a classic tale as Asimov worked through a lot of situations that later writers drew upon for their own stories.
One of the things that makes this story so memorable is Asimov's attempts to ferret out how machines and humans will interact as the machines become more complex.
if you are a fan of stories depicting the increasing complexity of human and machine interaction, then this book is for you.
Highly recommmended.
Asimov worked through some basic laws of robotics that are still quoted and referenced today. He was a true pioneer in this field- and many others.
In the beginning we have a NYC detective-Elijah Bailey investigating the murder of a prominent citizen. As he investigates he comes to the conclusion that a robot was responsible. THis is thought to be impossible since hardwired into all robots is the restriction that that no robot can harm a human. This is a classic tale as Asimov worked through a lot of situations that later writers drew upon for their own stories.
One of the things that makes this story so memorable is Asimov's attempts to ferret out how machines and humans will interact as the machines become more complex.
if you are a fan of stories depicting the increasing complexity of human and machine interaction, then this book is for you.
Highly recommmended.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
marc rickaby
I've been meaning to dive into Asimov's groundbreaking Robot series for some time, and finally got around to reading this first book last year. It's classic Golden Age science fiction, full of amazing possibilities, yet tinged with noir overtones that drive the action toward a solution I for one didn't see coming.
It may sound like the setup to a contemporary distopia, and yet Asimov paints a more realistic picture than his darker counterparts by having all forms of reaction to this world: positive, negative, indifferent, and everywhere in between.
This range of human emotion is best expressed by the protagonist Detective Elijah "Lije" Baley. He's a classic hard-boiled crime fighter dropped into a future crowded city, distrustful of many and yet open to new ideas. He's not best pleased to get saddled with his robot partner R. Daneel Olivaw to solve a spacer's murder, but he pursues his goal with single-minded ferocity despite a number of plausible red herrings thrown in his path.
The dynamic relationship Baley and Olivaw share throughout the novel paves the way for many successors to come, but still reads like a fresh invention. Like with any Asimov tale, the world itself is alive with discovery. The scene where these two partners dodge passengers along crisscrossing, multistoried moving sidewalks in pursuit of a suspect practically begs for a cinematic treatment, while the various levels of the steel cave are gradually peeled back one by one.
Incredibly, Asimov even avoids the usual science fiction fallacy of pretending religion will vanish like some exotic animal in the future. Not only do humans still espouse various beliefs in this brave and burgeoning new world, but such traditions impact the story in a climatic moment that offers hope not just for the protagonists but the world and its future.
Combining action, philosophy, a pinch of romance and a good mystery, "Caves of Steel" offers something for every level of science fiction fan. It's a genre classic that offers a foundation for things to come and yet stands as a great work in its own right.
It may sound like the setup to a contemporary distopia, and yet Asimov paints a more realistic picture than his darker counterparts by having all forms of reaction to this world: positive, negative, indifferent, and everywhere in between.
This range of human emotion is best expressed by the protagonist Detective Elijah "Lije" Baley. He's a classic hard-boiled crime fighter dropped into a future crowded city, distrustful of many and yet open to new ideas. He's not best pleased to get saddled with his robot partner R. Daneel Olivaw to solve a spacer's murder, but he pursues his goal with single-minded ferocity despite a number of plausible red herrings thrown in his path.
The dynamic relationship Baley and Olivaw share throughout the novel paves the way for many successors to come, but still reads like a fresh invention. Like with any Asimov tale, the world itself is alive with discovery. The scene where these two partners dodge passengers along crisscrossing, multistoried moving sidewalks in pursuit of a suspect practically begs for a cinematic treatment, while the various levels of the steel cave are gradually peeled back one by one.
Incredibly, Asimov even avoids the usual science fiction fallacy of pretending religion will vanish like some exotic animal in the future. Not only do humans still espouse various beliefs in this brave and burgeoning new world, but such traditions impact the story in a climatic moment that offers hope not just for the protagonists but the world and its future.
Combining action, philosophy, a pinch of romance and a good mystery, "Caves of Steel" offers something for every level of science fiction fan. It's a genre classic that offers a foundation for things to come and yet stands as a great work in its own right.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
frederick warner
Caves of Steel (The Robot Series Book 1) is the first book in the Robot Series by Isaac Asimov. I've finished my third trip through this book and enjoyed it as much as the first. Many others have written excellent reviews of this book, and I defer to them for details.
Even though the book is now 50+ years old, the scenarios are still thought provoking and the plots are still intriguing. The specific SciFi devices have been, in part, made obsolete by advances in physics. However, they serve as excellent vehicles to create a fascinating future world. Some of the imagined advances are still far in the future, or, very likely, will always lie in the realm of fiction. For example, the "positronic brain" is a flight of fancy that will never be realized-- there are many better ways to create computing machines. Similarly, interstellar travel by human beings is extremely unlikely. Don't worry about it! Fictional devices like this do not diminish the book's appeal and value, in my opinion. Just substitute any technology or imaginative device you like that might produce a similar result, and the rest of the plot follows along just fine.
My recommendation: read this one, even if you've never found a SciFi book that you like! If you like this one, finish out the four-book robot series. If you enjoy those books, continue to the Foundation Series. The whole journey through Asimov's rich future world is a stimulating, entertaining, and thought-provoking experience.
This book is eminently suitable and appealing for a YA audience. For YA readers, this and other older books in the Robot and Foundation series offer a conciseness and pace that is especially attractive.
Even though the book is now 50+ years old, the scenarios are still thought provoking and the plots are still intriguing. The specific SciFi devices have been, in part, made obsolete by advances in physics. However, they serve as excellent vehicles to create a fascinating future world. Some of the imagined advances are still far in the future, or, very likely, will always lie in the realm of fiction. For example, the "positronic brain" is a flight of fancy that will never be realized-- there are many better ways to create computing machines. Similarly, interstellar travel by human beings is extremely unlikely. Don't worry about it! Fictional devices like this do not diminish the book's appeal and value, in my opinion. Just substitute any technology or imaginative device you like that might produce a similar result, and the rest of the plot follows along just fine.
My recommendation: read this one, even if you've never found a SciFi book that you like! If you like this one, finish out the four-book robot series. If you enjoy those books, continue to the Foundation Series. The whole journey through Asimov's rich future world is a stimulating, entertaining, and thought-provoking experience.
This book is eminently suitable and appealing for a YA audience. For YA readers, this and other older books in the Robot and Foundation series offer a conciseness and pace that is especially attractive.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
dhivya
The Caves of Steel is Isaac Asimov's first attempt to fuse the science fiction and mystery novel genres, as well as a precursor to that hoary post-90s cliche, the buddy cop movie, in which two disparate personalities are forced to work together to solve a crime. In this case, the buddies are a human detective with a dislike of robots and, wouldn't you know it, a robot.
I liked the world Asimov created for this book, one in which a small number of alien "Spacers," descendants of human colonists to other worlds from generations past, live in uneasy proximity with Earth's native population. The latter is riddled with resentment against both the Spacers and against robots, which threaten livelihoods because of their ability to do many jobs better (and cheaper) than human workers (the situation is analogous to that in Kurt Vonnegut's Player Piano, published only a year or two earlier, which also featured a future society obsessed with a fear of automation). The Spacers, on the other hand, see robots as quality of life enhancers.
The disparity in outlook is driven by the fact that the Spacers have few kids and value leisure, which robots help facilitate. Think of them as extraterrestrial metrosexuals. Natives of Earth, on the other hand, apparently continue to breed like rabbits despite official policy, a situation that threatens to cause an eventual global catastrophe brought about by exhaustion of resources, especially food.
It's an interesting look at contrasting views of life but I think Asimov is on the wrong track with his view of Earth's situation. For starters, since the introduction of reliable and inexpensive birth control in the form of the Pill (about a decade after Caves of Steel's publication), birthrates in developing or developed societies have actually plunged, not grown, so the real threat to humanity isn't overpopulation but underpopulation as birthrates decline past replacement levels. He also fails to grasp that advancing technology mitigates threats of resource depletion by either inventing new ways to exploit previously unattainable reserves (shale oil, for example) or finding suitable alternatives.
Asimov's Earth society on Caves of Steel resembles nothing so much as life in the old Soviet Union and its satellites, with its communal housing, strict rationing, social regimentation and granting of special privileges that entitle the fortunate (or well connected) to small luxuries (your own shower, for example).
The mystery itself is decent but Asimov concentrates more on the character of the detective Elijah Baley, who must juggle his personal feelings against robots, his desire to please his boss in order to advance his career, his love for his wife and child and his sense of duty. Along the way he tosses out a couple of incorrect but inventive solutions to the mystery that keep the conflict hopping.
Not the best mystery I've ever read but a fairly imaginative yarn nevertheless. I understand Asimov returned to these characters in a couple of sequels and I'll be interested to see where he took them. Meanwhile, Caves of Steel is worth a look, though not a must-read.
I liked the world Asimov created for this book, one in which a small number of alien "Spacers," descendants of human colonists to other worlds from generations past, live in uneasy proximity with Earth's native population. The latter is riddled with resentment against both the Spacers and against robots, which threaten livelihoods because of their ability to do many jobs better (and cheaper) than human workers (the situation is analogous to that in Kurt Vonnegut's Player Piano, published only a year or two earlier, which also featured a future society obsessed with a fear of automation). The Spacers, on the other hand, see robots as quality of life enhancers.
The disparity in outlook is driven by the fact that the Spacers have few kids and value leisure, which robots help facilitate. Think of them as extraterrestrial metrosexuals. Natives of Earth, on the other hand, apparently continue to breed like rabbits despite official policy, a situation that threatens to cause an eventual global catastrophe brought about by exhaustion of resources, especially food.
It's an interesting look at contrasting views of life but I think Asimov is on the wrong track with his view of Earth's situation. For starters, since the introduction of reliable and inexpensive birth control in the form of the Pill (about a decade after Caves of Steel's publication), birthrates in developing or developed societies have actually plunged, not grown, so the real threat to humanity isn't overpopulation but underpopulation as birthrates decline past replacement levels. He also fails to grasp that advancing technology mitigates threats of resource depletion by either inventing new ways to exploit previously unattainable reserves (shale oil, for example) or finding suitable alternatives.
Asimov's Earth society on Caves of Steel resembles nothing so much as life in the old Soviet Union and its satellites, with its communal housing, strict rationing, social regimentation and granting of special privileges that entitle the fortunate (or well connected) to small luxuries (your own shower, for example).
The mystery itself is decent but Asimov concentrates more on the character of the detective Elijah Baley, who must juggle his personal feelings against robots, his desire to please his boss in order to advance his career, his love for his wife and child and his sense of duty. Along the way he tosses out a couple of incorrect but inventive solutions to the mystery that keep the conflict hopping.
Not the best mystery I've ever read but a fairly imaginative yarn nevertheless. I understand Asimov returned to these characters in a couple of sequels and I'll be interested to see where he took them. Meanwhile, Caves of Steel is worth a look, though not a must-read.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
camden
As always, Isaac Asimov's imagined future is mind-blowing. Coincidentally, this was my only problem with the book, as he starts off The Caves of Steel with a mystery, but over the course of the book spends as much, if not more time, explaining his world and philosophizing about the problems these future societies face than he does on the actual plot of the book. This is only a problem because I was so interested in the present story and the two main characters that I would have liked him to spend more time on this.
Nevertheless, Asimov's writing and imagination, as always, are quite awe-inspiring, and The Caves of Steel is still a very good book, and I look forward to the rest of this series.
Nevertheless, Asimov's writing and imagination, as always, are quite awe-inspiring, and The Caves of Steel is still a very good book, and I look forward to the rest of this series.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
cassandra smith
Years ago I read, The Caves of Steel (R. Daneel Olivaw, Book 1) by Isaac Asimov, and I have re-read it just recently. Asimov's writing has, in general, lost its golden luster in my eyes--in my youth I was awed by Asimov, particularly the Foundation series.
However, while the writing may have lost its luster, his ideas have not (even if specific ones seem out of date now), and I think that this book is one of his better written books.
The story starts after the murder of Sarton, a Spacer who had been living on Earth in the special Spacer colony. Lije Baley, a New York detective is teamed up with R. Daneel Olivaw, a robot assigned by the Spacers to work with the Earthers in solving the crime. In the past, riots against Spacers and robots have led to tensions, and it is feared that Sarton's murder will spark a complete break.
Lije must navigate his personal life and own ambivalences in dealing with Olivaw, who has a nearly perfect human appearance. Lije tests out several theories with Olivaw in who the murderer could be before finally figuring it out correctly.
The Caves of Steel is a detective story set in the future, and that is its primary forward momentum. As populations grew, megacities developed, which are essentially enclosed, cramped spaces where humans do nearly everything communally. Promotions and added responsibilities increase a person's ranking, providing greater living space, more privacy, real chicken, and so on. However, the primary theme of the novel, for me, is that of xenophobia. Xenophobia of spacers and robots. What's interesting is that Lije (and many others) is not wholly inaccurate. The Spacers do have a hidden agenda (even if benevolent) and the robots are replacing humans in jobs--but the society amplifies these real concerns into hateful stereotypes that are destructive, the block Lije's and Earth's ability to escape its disastrous future.
Let's not forget, of course, that this novel fleshes out more the Three Laws of Robotics. While not central to the novel, they do come in to play in how Lije evaluates Olivaw. AI, "personhood," and robotics have two--to me--particularly interesting turns in this novel. The first is that human live in these megacities (i.e., caves of steel), while the Spacers and their robots live, in Spacetown on Earth, in the open. Many see cities as antithetical to being "human," particularly in cramped, subsistence existence. Who is more "unnatural" in this sense? Lije or Olivaw? Also, at one point, a human created robot--which one cannot mistake for anything but a robot--is killed. Most of the people around Lije don't view it as a homicide because it's just a robot. Property damage. But Lije has clearly shifted in his thinking, but he explicitly calls it murder. His contact with Olivaw has allowed him to see sentience as what gives a "thing" "personhoood"--thus murder is possible.
Very much recommended. A classic of science fiction that has earned the designation.
However, while the writing may have lost its luster, his ideas have not (even if specific ones seem out of date now), and I think that this book is one of his better written books.
The story starts after the murder of Sarton, a Spacer who had been living on Earth in the special Spacer colony. Lije Baley, a New York detective is teamed up with R. Daneel Olivaw, a robot assigned by the Spacers to work with the Earthers in solving the crime. In the past, riots against Spacers and robots have led to tensions, and it is feared that Sarton's murder will spark a complete break.
Lije must navigate his personal life and own ambivalences in dealing with Olivaw, who has a nearly perfect human appearance. Lije tests out several theories with Olivaw in who the murderer could be before finally figuring it out correctly.
The Caves of Steel is a detective story set in the future, and that is its primary forward momentum. As populations grew, megacities developed, which are essentially enclosed, cramped spaces where humans do nearly everything communally. Promotions and added responsibilities increase a person's ranking, providing greater living space, more privacy, real chicken, and so on. However, the primary theme of the novel, for me, is that of xenophobia. Xenophobia of spacers and robots. What's interesting is that Lije (and many others) is not wholly inaccurate. The Spacers do have a hidden agenda (even if benevolent) and the robots are replacing humans in jobs--but the society amplifies these real concerns into hateful stereotypes that are destructive, the block Lije's and Earth's ability to escape its disastrous future.
Let's not forget, of course, that this novel fleshes out more the Three Laws of Robotics. While not central to the novel, they do come in to play in how Lije evaluates Olivaw. AI, "personhood," and robotics have two--to me--particularly interesting turns in this novel. The first is that human live in these megacities (i.e., caves of steel), while the Spacers and their robots live, in Spacetown on Earth, in the open. Many see cities as antithetical to being "human," particularly in cramped, subsistence existence. Who is more "unnatural" in this sense? Lije or Olivaw? Also, at one point, a human created robot--which one cannot mistake for anything but a robot--is killed. Most of the people around Lije don't view it as a homicide because it's just a robot. Property damage. But Lije has clearly shifted in his thinking, but he explicitly calls it murder. His contact with Olivaw has allowed him to see sentience as what gives a "thing" "personhoood"--thus murder is possible.
Very much recommended. A classic of science fiction that has earned the designation.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
felicia
Elijah (Lije) Baley is a detective who lives in a future city of New York who is given a controversial murder to resolve. The death of a Spacer is seen as a major incident and something that must be solved in order to avoid potential fighting between the Spacers and the people of Earth who current hold an uneasy, if rather segregated, peace.
Most controversially, Lije is given a partner from the spacers to investigate with: a robot, Daneel Olivaw. Robots on Earth are generally seen as an under-race, taking people's jobs and generally regarded with suspicion or with distaste. Spacers have them integrated into daily life. Daneel is a notch above the robots usually seen on Earth: humanoid and to all intents human-like.
So this is a considerable difficulty for Lije, and one which takes some adjusting to, by Lije, his wife Jezebel and his son Bentley, all of whom have to adjust to living with a robot.
As the investigation continues, Lije goes from mistrust to respectful admiration of Daneel, and a greater understanding of the universe from a Spacer's perspective.
A book that tackles issues of race, bigotry and hatred, written before the US race riots of the 1960's? This still has a narrative drive and the power to shock. Whilst it is a mystery story, what makes it work is the matter of fact placing into a future regulated society where atomic war has led people to live in vast regimented `caves of steel', where food is regulated (and mainly yeast-based), travel is not by car but by walkway, living space is a premium and jobs are increasingly scarce and under threat of being given to a robot at any time.
There are parts that have dated, though the core of the tale still works. There's the odd info dump and clunky `discussion' - Asimov spends a page or two explaining where the names Elijah and Jezebel come from, and can't resist giving a history lecture, for example - but on the whole its prose is tight and there is little space given for reflective bloat. The tale is done in less than 200 pages.
What was amusing in my teens - Lije's use of 'Jehoshaphat!' as a swear-word - is a little annoying now and the need to end some chapters on a grand reveal ("Your honour, it was the butler that did it!") belies its pulp origins. The singular view of the Bible as the most important religious book in the world may also jar in today's more secular global network, though perhaps understandable from a 1950's viewpoint. So too the use and acceptance of tobacco in social circumstances.
But in the end, nearly sixty years on, it's still a grand read. Asimov's description of a world under population stress is still interesting and reminded me of Orwell's 1984 in its depiction of dreary existence.
Most importantly, the `whodunit' in a whodunit mystery is still quite a surprise, though as we would hope, quite logical once explained.
In the wider scheme of things, of course, as well as being the start of Asimov's own Grand Scheme to link the Robot series with the Foundation series, this is Asimov's version of a Heinleinesque Future History: see The Roads Must Roll, for example. Though not as skilful as Heinlein's version, nor as opinionated, it is a great read. Still.
Most controversially, Lije is given a partner from the spacers to investigate with: a robot, Daneel Olivaw. Robots on Earth are generally seen as an under-race, taking people's jobs and generally regarded with suspicion or with distaste. Spacers have them integrated into daily life. Daneel is a notch above the robots usually seen on Earth: humanoid and to all intents human-like.
So this is a considerable difficulty for Lije, and one which takes some adjusting to, by Lije, his wife Jezebel and his son Bentley, all of whom have to adjust to living with a robot.
As the investigation continues, Lije goes from mistrust to respectful admiration of Daneel, and a greater understanding of the universe from a Spacer's perspective.
A book that tackles issues of race, bigotry and hatred, written before the US race riots of the 1960's? This still has a narrative drive and the power to shock. Whilst it is a mystery story, what makes it work is the matter of fact placing into a future regulated society where atomic war has led people to live in vast regimented `caves of steel', where food is regulated (and mainly yeast-based), travel is not by car but by walkway, living space is a premium and jobs are increasingly scarce and under threat of being given to a robot at any time.
There are parts that have dated, though the core of the tale still works. There's the odd info dump and clunky `discussion' - Asimov spends a page or two explaining where the names Elijah and Jezebel come from, and can't resist giving a history lecture, for example - but on the whole its prose is tight and there is little space given for reflective bloat. The tale is done in less than 200 pages.
What was amusing in my teens - Lije's use of 'Jehoshaphat!' as a swear-word - is a little annoying now and the need to end some chapters on a grand reveal ("Your honour, it was the butler that did it!") belies its pulp origins. The singular view of the Bible as the most important religious book in the world may also jar in today's more secular global network, though perhaps understandable from a 1950's viewpoint. So too the use and acceptance of tobacco in social circumstances.
But in the end, nearly sixty years on, it's still a grand read. Asimov's description of a world under population stress is still interesting and reminded me of Orwell's 1984 in its depiction of dreary existence.
Most importantly, the `whodunit' in a whodunit mystery is still quite a surprise, though as we would hope, quite logical once explained.
In the wider scheme of things, of course, as well as being the start of Asimov's own Grand Scheme to link the Robot series with the Foundation series, this is Asimov's version of a Heinleinesque Future History: see The Roads Must Roll, for example. Though not as skilful as Heinlein's version, nor as opinionated, it is a great read. Still.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
anne marie
Um milênio no futuro, dois avanços da ciência alteraram o curso da história da humanidade: a colonização da galáxia e a criação do cérebro positrônico.
As pessoas tem de viver nos subterrâneos da Terra, com medo de espaços abertos, pois não há muito lugar sobrando na superfície, e é preciso se defender de possíveis ataques de outros planetas colonizados por humanoss.
Este livro relata a estranha parceria entre um detetive de Nova Iorque e um robot humanóide, que precisam trabalhar em conjunto.
Assim como a maioria das pessoas deixadas para trás na Terra superpopulosa, o detetive Elijah Baley possui pouca simpatia pelos robots.
Porém, quando um Spacer é assassinado sob circunstâncias misteriosas, Baley é enviado para rastrear o assassino.
Um Spacer é um humano que vive em outros planetas colonizados pelos terráqueos. Eles estão sempre com medo dos humanos que permaneceram na Terra.
Só que ele tem de dividir a missão com R. Daneel Olivaw: um robot positrônico sofisticado e construído para obedecer às três Leis principais da robótica, elaboradas pelo escritor Isaac Asimov, no livro "Eu, Robô, e que controlam o comportamento dos robôs, de forma a tornar possível a existência de robots inteligentes (as leis pressupõem inteligência suficiente para distinguir o bem do mal) e que não se revoltassem contra o domínio humano. São elas:
* 1ª Lei: Um robô não pode ferir um ser humano ou, por omissão, permitir que um ser humano sofra algum mal.
* 2ª Lei: Um robô deve obedecer as ordens que lhe sejam dadas por seres humanos, exceto nos casos em que tais ordens entrem em conflito com a Primeira Lei.
* 3ª Lei: Um robô deve proteger sua própria existência desde que tal proteção não entre em conflito com a Primeira e/ou a Segunda Lei.
O relacionamento entre eles, é claro, não funciona muito bem...
Além disso, ainda tem de lidar com os Medievalistas, que desprezam os robots, por estarem tirando os empregos dos humanos.
A temática central do livro é a exploração das conseqüências sociais dessa contínua e não linear urbanização do planeta. È saber lidar com as diferenças, com confiança.
Daneel Olivaw vai aparecer novamente em outras estórias de Asimov, inclusive com Elijah Baley em "The naked sun".
A trilogia Fundação acontece depois desse tempo. Leiam na ordem.
As pessoas tem de viver nos subterrâneos da Terra, com medo de espaços abertos, pois não há muito lugar sobrando na superfície, e é preciso se defender de possíveis ataques de outros planetas colonizados por humanoss.
Este livro relata a estranha parceria entre um detetive de Nova Iorque e um robot humanóide, que precisam trabalhar em conjunto.
Assim como a maioria das pessoas deixadas para trás na Terra superpopulosa, o detetive Elijah Baley possui pouca simpatia pelos robots.
Porém, quando um Spacer é assassinado sob circunstâncias misteriosas, Baley é enviado para rastrear o assassino.
Um Spacer é um humano que vive em outros planetas colonizados pelos terráqueos. Eles estão sempre com medo dos humanos que permaneceram na Terra.
Só que ele tem de dividir a missão com R. Daneel Olivaw: um robot positrônico sofisticado e construído para obedecer às três Leis principais da robótica, elaboradas pelo escritor Isaac Asimov, no livro "Eu, Robô, e que controlam o comportamento dos robôs, de forma a tornar possível a existência de robots inteligentes (as leis pressupõem inteligência suficiente para distinguir o bem do mal) e que não se revoltassem contra o domínio humano. São elas:
* 1ª Lei: Um robô não pode ferir um ser humano ou, por omissão, permitir que um ser humano sofra algum mal.
* 2ª Lei: Um robô deve obedecer as ordens que lhe sejam dadas por seres humanos, exceto nos casos em que tais ordens entrem em conflito com a Primeira Lei.
* 3ª Lei: Um robô deve proteger sua própria existência desde que tal proteção não entre em conflito com a Primeira e/ou a Segunda Lei.
O relacionamento entre eles, é claro, não funciona muito bem...
Além disso, ainda tem de lidar com os Medievalistas, que desprezam os robots, por estarem tirando os empregos dos humanos.
A temática central do livro é a exploração das conseqüências sociais dessa contínua e não linear urbanização do planeta. È saber lidar com as diferenças, com confiança.
Daneel Olivaw vai aparecer novamente em outras estórias de Asimov, inclusive com Elijah Baley em "The naked sun".
A trilogia Fundação acontece depois desse tempo. Leiam na ordem.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
ren edde
I read this as a kid so my memory of it may be coloured but it was great. In this Asimov we meet detective Elijah Bailey for the first time. We also meet the kind of world he's living in - one where a lack of resources and overpopulation has meant that the government controls a great deal of aspects of people's lives including jobs, food rations etc. It also means that the major cities (including New York where this is set) are covered by a dome - the modern man and woman are never "outdoors" as such and being outdoors has become a taboo or some kind of universal phobia. There are also Spacers who broke away from this kind of constrained society a while ago to colonize other world. Relations are strained between the two groups.
The book is the case of the murder of one spacer - an important scientist. Bailey, in his investigations, gets an unusual partner - Daniel, a robot who was designed by the vic, looks exactly like him and is the latest in advanced spacer robot construction technology. Alongside the detective story (which by itself wouldn't have been that great), Daniel learns about Bailey's world, and its absurdities, while Elijah contemplates what it means to be an earth human/spacer/robot.
Overall, I found this entertaining and thoughtprovoking which I think are the two cornerstones of good sci-fi.
The book is the case of the murder of one spacer - an important scientist. Bailey, in his investigations, gets an unusual partner - Daniel, a robot who was designed by the vic, looks exactly like him and is the latest in advanced spacer robot construction technology. Alongside the detective story (which by itself wouldn't have been that great), Daniel learns about Bailey's world, and its absurdities, while Elijah contemplates what it means to be an earth human/spacer/robot.
Overall, I found this entertaining and thoughtprovoking which I think are the two cornerstones of good sci-fi.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
scott bartuska
One of Asimov's best. It's a shame that the movie I-Robot was actually a mash up of this novel and the book I-Robot when it should just have been a movie interpretation of this. That's how ahead of his time Asimov was, his books describe a very possible future and they still manage to have that thinking man's action movie vibe to them. A sci-fi classic.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
michyv
Some of the stories in THE COMPLETE ROBOT indicate the beginning of galactic civilization with the concept of hyperspace, but this novel shows the beginning of Earth's expansion into the galaxy.
However, that is only one of the factors in this science fiction/mystery novel. It works well on both levels. I've seen some criticism of the mystery elements, but with careful reading, the seasoned mystery reader will spot the necessary clues leading to the conclusion.
The basic plot involves New York City detective Elijah Bailey's teaming with R. Daneel Olivaw, a spacer android, to solve the murder of a prominent spacer scientist. Earth's population is, as a whole, fearful of the growing use of robots. There's a combination of distrust of the robots and fear of robots taking over even complex jobs on an overcrowded Earth, and the police detective himself resents having to work with a non-human. Naturally, this changes in time as the two work together to solve the crime and as Bailey learns of the outer worlds' objective of inspiring Earth's participation in colonizing other worlds.
As a whole, the story is well plotted and should encourage those new to Asimov to continue reading the robot series and then the Empire and Foundation books.
However, that is only one of the factors in this science fiction/mystery novel. It works well on both levels. I've seen some criticism of the mystery elements, but with careful reading, the seasoned mystery reader will spot the necessary clues leading to the conclusion.
The basic plot involves New York City detective Elijah Bailey's teaming with R. Daneel Olivaw, a spacer android, to solve the murder of a prominent spacer scientist. Earth's population is, as a whole, fearful of the growing use of robots. There's a combination of distrust of the robots and fear of robots taking over even complex jobs on an overcrowded Earth, and the police detective himself resents having to work with a non-human. Naturally, this changes in time as the two work together to solve the crime and as Bailey learns of the outer worlds' objective of inspiring Earth's participation in colonizing other worlds.
As a whole, the story is well plotted and should encourage those new to Asimov to continue reading the robot series and then the Empire and Foundation books.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
barry levy
I guess in some sense the series is started with the I, Robot short stories, though this is the first of the Robot Novels and brings the (soon to be) famous R Daneel Olivaw into the picture, in addition to Bailey, whose name becomes large enough to be referenced in the Foundation works. The book itself is classic Asimov, and stands in there as a great Sci Fi novel in itself and part of the greater whole. While I'm not going to say it's as classic as some of the other work of the time, it does set the stage for some solid speculative fiction both on the pages and in your own head, which is always a great accomplishment for an author. Where the Foundation books are more of a far, far distant future of stories, the Robot novels give you something very tangible to think about as it pertains to the world now.
Some of the basic ideas are put forth in this novel which will pop up again and again in future books, both in the Robot and Foundation series'. Well worth the read, and short enough to knock this out in 2 days time.
Some of the basic ideas are put forth in this novel which will pop up again and again in future books, both in the Robot and Foundation series'. Well worth the read, and short enough to knock this out in 2 days time.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
judith altman
John W. Campbell, Jr., famously said that the two genres of detective fiction and SF couldn't be combined. He was mistaken, as Isaac Asimov eventually demonstrated for another publisher (Horace Gold at _Galaxy_) with this fine work.
Building on his robot stories, Asimov here introduces two of his most memorable characters: detectives Elijah Baley (a human) and R. Daneel Olivaw (a robot). In Asimov's later work, these two are going to go down in galactic history. Here, they're just solving a mystery.
The tale opens in a future version of New York, but despite some nods toward the "hard-boiled" genre, Asimov actually owes more to Dame Agatha Christie than to Mickey Spillane. At any rate I won't spoil it for you by telling you any more about it.
The main reason I'm reviewing it now, in fact, is to recommend it to readers of Richard K. Morgan's brilliant _Altered Carbon_. There's a very short line of "mystery SF", running through Larry Niven's ARM stories; it starts here. If you're at all interested in this genre, this is one you'll want to read.
The two sequels (_The Naked Sun_ and _The Robots of Dawn_) are excellent as well. And of course any reader of Asimov's later works knows what eventually became of R. Daneel Olivaw.
Building on his robot stories, Asimov here introduces two of his most memorable characters: detectives Elijah Baley (a human) and R. Daneel Olivaw (a robot). In Asimov's later work, these two are going to go down in galactic history. Here, they're just solving a mystery.
The tale opens in a future version of New York, but despite some nods toward the "hard-boiled" genre, Asimov actually owes more to Dame Agatha Christie than to Mickey Spillane. At any rate I won't spoil it for you by telling you any more about it.
The main reason I'm reviewing it now, in fact, is to recommend it to readers of Richard K. Morgan's brilliant _Altered Carbon_. There's a very short line of "mystery SF", running through Larry Niven's ARM stories; it starts here. If you're at all interested in this genre, this is one you'll want to read.
The two sequels (_The Naked Sun_ and _The Robots of Dawn_) are excellent as well. And of course any reader of Asimov's later works knows what eventually became of R. Daneel Olivaw.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
alison
The Caves of Steel is an incredible science fiction novel that work on two levels. Although it is deeply enmeshed in Asimov's robot universe, and has many of its inherent SF trappings, it is, at its heart, a murder mystery. For this reason, I think it can be enjoyed by science fiction fans and non-science fiction fans alike. It is very, very tightly written, quite suspenseful, and will keep you reading (and guessing) right up until the end. A true page-turner. That said, the novel, despite its brevity, probes quite well into some very deep issues. Baley and his relationship with his robot partner is quite a fascinating study: one watches his strong initial prejudice melt away as the book goes along, which makes for quite a statement on ethical relativism and cultural bias. Asimov also manages to bring up that oft-asked science fiction question: just what, exactly, does it mean to be human? On top of all this, the book features some quite philosophical aspects and several near-poetic bursts of dialogue that shows Asimov, like all good science fiction writers, did some good, hard thinking and extrapolation on where humanity may be heading in the future. He senses some real dangers (overpopulation, a dependence on technology, cities getting too big) and shows us the warning signs. The whole book is very well-written and described, and Asimov managed to build up quite a universe in it - the book has a very film noir aspect to it, and was obviously a big influence on subsequent writings by many different authors. Readers get the best of both worlds with an exquisite murder mystery, along with many other deeper issues examined that one would not normally find in a mere mystery story. An essential science fiction read, and a masterpiece.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
eoin
Caves of Steel is one of Asimov's best books (well, truthfully the same can be said of every Asimov book I've read). As Asimov does so well, the book is written on multiple levels and they are all interesting and engaging.
At first glance, we have Elijah Bailey, the earther, a New Yorker of the future who lives in the vast underground city. Bailey is a cop put on the case of a murdered Spacer (those humans who have settled other planets). Bailey is teamed with another investigator R. Daneel Olivaw who we find out later, is a robot.
More than just your basic whodunit, this book deals with larger issues of the differences between people that keep them in fear and mistrust of each other. The Spacers who have embraced the outside world, who have embraced technology and robotics live in fear of the humans who stayed on earth. Those humans who live in extremely close contact with each other in teeming underground cities as they've all developed a fear of the open sky. The earthers loathe the Spacers for their superiority complex and the Spacers fear contamination from the earthers.
Bailey must overcome these inbred fears and bigotries when he must travel off planet with his partner, a robot, to deal with and solve a murder of a Spacer. Olivaw (who is a recurring character in many Asimov books) sort of becomes Bailey's moral compass and our guide through the physical and emotional journey Bailey takes.
The book is a quick read and it's good old sci fi at its best. I recommend also reading "The Naked Sun" and "The Robots of Dawn" which also feature Bailey and Olivaw.
At first glance, we have Elijah Bailey, the earther, a New Yorker of the future who lives in the vast underground city. Bailey is a cop put on the case of a murdered Spacer (those humans who have settled other planets). Bailey is teamed with another investigator R. Daneel Olivaw who we find out later, is a robot.
More than just your basic whodunit, this book deals with larger issues of the differences between people that keep them in fear and mistrust of each other. The Spacers who have embraced the outside world, who have embraced technology and robotics live in fear of the humans who stayed on earth. Those humans who live in extremely close contact with each other in teeming underground cities as they've all developed a fear of the open sky. The earthers loathe the Spacers for their superiority complex and the Spacers fear contamination from the earthers.
Bailey must overcome these inbred fears and bigotries when he must travel off planet with his partner, a robot, to deal with and solve a murder of a Spacer. Olivaw (who is a recurring character in many Asimov books) sort of becomes Bailey's moral compass and our guide through the physical and emotional journey Bailey takes.
The book is a quick read and it's good old sci fi at its best. I recommend also reading "The Naked Sun" and "The Robots of Dawn" which also feature Bailey and Olivaw.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
daniel smith
Straightforward plot development with an ending I didn’t really anticipate. I will recommend it to my 14 y/o as it was suspenseful enough to keep my attention and it had no lurid scenes or excessive profanity. I read some of Asimov’s books decades ago and enjoyed them — I still do.
I will definitely start the next book in the series.
I will definitely start the next book in the series.
★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆
xnera
I love Asimov's nonfiction, for its liveliness and practical explanations of the how and why of science. However, his fictional characters were almost always quite stilted. Here isn't an exception.
On the plus side, Asimov is fantastic as a mystery writer, and that's what this is. It's an unlocked room mystery, where any number of people or machines could be the culprit, and he does an excellent job of tying in evidence, false assumptions, attempts to mislead the investigation, friction between human and robot, rebellion both competent and pointless, and several interest groups.
It's a bit slow to start, but worth reading on for the puzzle to be solved, which turns out to be rather elegant in basis (as a successful crime should be), complicated by culture and technology, and finally resolved as a human issue.
However, it's not perfect, because the characters are rather stiff--no more so than in any of his other works, it's just his style--and the overarching plans of both the Spacers and Medievalists are treated somewhat simplistically and with a bit of handwaving. They really should either have been left out, or given more treatment.
The trichotomy between the casual yet distant culture of the Spacers, vs the rebellious naivete of the Medievalists, and the drab, depressing burden of the City dwellers is interesting and disturbing, though I feel the City culture is excessive in its communistic strata. I'm not sure I can accept the stability of it.
While this is mentioned as taking place thousands of years in the future, and the tech is dated now, only 50 years later, I won't consider that a flaw--books are written to meet the reader's expectations, and 50 years ago the science was considered rather far out. And since much of it does now exist, it shows the brilliance of Asimov's grasp of science. I rather think (from his nonfic) that he knew it wouldn't take long to happen, but was afraid of saying so to the typical reader of the day (whereas Heinlein did the reverse--extrapolated short term with greater magnitude and slightly lesser accuracy).
It's a great piece to study the history of SF, an entertaining story, and a relevant part of the background for the "I, Robot" movie. Certainly worth the read, and fun despite its imperfections.
On the plus side, Asimov is fantastic as a mystery writer, and that's what this is. It's an unlocked room mystery, where any number of people or machines could be the culprit, and he does an excellent job of tying in evidence, false assumptions, attempts to mislead the investigation, friction between human and robot, rebellion both competent and pointless, and several interest groups.
It's a bit slow to start, but worth reading on for the puzzle to be solved, which turns out to be rather elegant in basis (as a successful crime should be), complicated by culture and technology, and finally resolved as a human issue.
However, it's not perfect, because the characters are rather stiff--no more so than in any of his other works, it's just his style--and the overarching plans of both the Spacers and Medievalists are treated somewhat simplistically and with a bit of handwaving. They really should either have been left out, or given more treatment.
The trichotomy between the casual yet distant culture of the Spacers, vs the rebellious naivete of the Medievalists, and the drab, depressing burden of the City dwellers is interesting and disturbing, though I feel the City culture is excessive in its communistic strata. I'm not sure I can accept the stability of it.
While this is mentioned as taking place thousands of years in the future, and the tech is dated now, only 50 years later, I won't consider that a flaw--books are written to meet the reader's expectations, and 50 years ago the science was considered rather far out. And since much of it does now exist, it shows the brilliance of Asimov's grasp of science. I rather think (from his nonfic) that he knew it wouldn't take long to happen, but was afraid of saying so to the typical reader of the day (whereas Heinlein did the reverse--extrapolated short term with greater magnitude and slightly lesser accuracy).
It's a great piece to study the history of SF, an entertaining story, and a relevant part of the background for the "I, Robot" movie. Certainly worth the read, and fun despite its imperfections.
★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆
yolande
I love Asimov's nonfiction, for its liveliness and practical explanations of the how and why of science. However, his fictional characters were almost always quite stilted. Here isn't an exception.
On the plus side, Asimov is fantastic as a mystery writer, and that's what this is. It's an unlocked room mystery, where any number of people or machines could be the culprit, and he does an excellent job of tying in evidence, false assumptions, attempts to mislead the investigation, friction between human and robot, rebellion both competent and pointless, and several interest groups.
It's a bit slow to start, but worth reading on for the puzzle to be solved, which turns out to be rather elegant in basis (as a successful crime should be), complicated by culture and technology, and finally resolved as a human issue.
However, it's not perfect, because the characters are rather stiff--no more so than in any of his other works, it's just his style--and the overarching plans of both the Spacers and Medievalists are treated somewhat simplistically and with a bit of handwaving. They really should either have been left out, or given more treatment.
The trichotomy between the casual yet distant culture of the Spacers, vs the rebellious naivete of the Medievalists, and the drab, depressing burden of the City dwellers is interesting and disturbing, though I feel the City culture is excessive in its communistic strata. I'm not sure I can accept the stability of it.
While this is mentioned as taking place thousands of years in the future, and the tech is dated now, only 50 years later, I won't consider that a flaw--books are written to meet the reader's expectations, and 50 years ago the science was considered rather far out. And since much of it does now exist, it shows the brilliance of Asimov's grasp of science. I rather think (from his nonfic) that he knew it wouldn't take long to happen, but was afraid of saying so to the typical reader of the day (whereas Heinlein did the reverse--extrapolated short term with greater magnitude and slightly lesser accuracy).
It's a great piece to study the history of SF, an entertaining story, and a relevant part of the background for the "I, Robot" movie. Certainly worth the read, and fun despite its imperfections.
On the plus side, Asimov is fantastic as a mystery writer, and that's what this is. It's an unlocked room mystery, where any number of people or machines could be the culprit, and he does an excellent job of tying in evidence, false assumptions, attempts to mislead the investigation, friction between human and robot, rebellion both competent and pointless, and several interest groups.
It's a bit slow to start, but worth reading on for the puzzle to be solved, which turns out to be rather elegant in basis (as a successful crime should be), complicated by culture and technology, and finally resolved as a human issue.
However, it's not perfect, because the characters are rather stiff--no more so than in any of his other works, it's just his style--and the overarching plans of both the Spacers and Medievalists are treated somewhat simplistically and with a bit of handwaving. They really should either have been left out, or given more treatment.
The trichotomy between the casual yet distant culture of the Spacers, vs the rebellious naivete of the Medievalists, and the drab, depressing burden of the City dwellers is interesting and disturbing, though I feel the City culture is excessive in its communistic strata. I'm not sure I can accept the stability of it.
While this is mentioned as taking place thousands of years in the future, and the tech is dated now, only 50 years later, I won't consider that a flaw--books are written to meet the reader's expectations, and 50 years ago the science was considered rather far out. And since much of it does now exist, it shows the brilliance of Asimov's grasp of science. I rather think (from his nonfic) that he knew it wouldn't take long to happen, but was afraid of saying so to the typical reader of the day (whereas Heinlein did the reverse--extrapolated short term with greater magnitude and slightly lesser accuracy).
It's a great piece to study the history of SF, an entertaining story, and a relevant part of the background for the "I, Robot" movie. Certainly worth the read, and fun despite its imperfections.
★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆
everett
I love Asimov's nonfiction, for its liveliness and practical explanations of the how and why of science. However, his fictional characters were almost always quite stilted. Here isn't an exception.
On the plus side, Asimov is fantastic as a mystery writer, and that's what this is. It's an unlocked room mystery, where any number of people or machines could be the culprit, and he does an excellent job of tying in evidence, false assumptions, attempts to mislead the investigation, friction between human and robot, rebellion both competent and pointless, and several interest groups.
It's a bit slow to start, but worth reading on for the puzzle to be solved, which turns out to be rather elegant in basis (as a successful crime should be), complicated by culture and technology, and finally resolved as a human issue.
However, it's not perfect, because the characters are rather stiff--no more so than in any of his other works, it's just his style--and the overarching plans of both the Spacers and Medievalists are treated somewhat simplistically and with a bit of handwaving. They really should either have been left out, or given more treatment.
The trichotomy between the casual yet distant culture of the Spacers, vs the rebellious naivete of the Medievalists, and the drab, depressing burden of the City dwellers is interesting and disturbing, though I feel the City culture is excessive in its communistic strata. I'm not sure I can accept the stability of it.
While this is mentioned as taking place thousands of years in the future, and the tech is dated now, only 50 years later, I won't consider that a flaw--books are written to meet the reader's expectations, and 50 years ago the science was considered rather far out. And since much of it does now exist, it shows the brilliance of Asimov's grasp of science. I rather think (from his nonfic) that he knew it wouldn't take long to happen, but was afraid of saying so to the typical reader of the day (whereas Heinlein did the reverse--extrapolated short term with greater magnitude and slightly lesser accuracy).
It's a great piece to study the history of SF, an entertaining story, and a relevant part of the background for the "I, Robot" movie. Certainly worth the read, and fun despite its imperfections.
On the plus side, Asimov is fantastic as a mystery writer, and that's what this is. It's an unlocked room mystery, where any number of people or machines could be the culprit, and he does an excellent job of tying in evidence, false assumptions, attempts to mislead the investigation, friction between human and robot, rebellion both competent and pointless, and several interest groups.
It's a bit slow to start, but worth reading on for the puzzle to be solved, which turns out to be rather elegant in basis (as a successful crime should be), complicated by culture and technology, and finally resolved as a human issue.
However, it's not perfect, because the characters are rather stiff--no more so than in any of his other works, it's just his style--and the overarching plans of both the Spacers and Medievalists are treated somewhat simplistically and with a bit of handwaving. They really should either have been left out, or given more treatment.
The trichotomy between the casual yet distant culture of the Spacers, vs the rebellious naivete of the Medievalists, and the drab, depressing burden of the City dwellers is interesting and disturbing, though I feel the City culture is excessive in its communistic strata. I'm not sure I can accept the stability of it.
While this is mentioned as taking place thousands of years in the future, and the tech is dated now, only 50 years later, I won't consider that a flaw--books are written to meet the reader's expectations, and 50 years ago the science was considered rather far out. And since much of it does now exist, it shows the brilliance of Asimov's grasp of science. I rather think (from his nonfic) that he knew it wouldn't take long to happen, but was afraid of saying so to the typical reader of the day (whereas Heinlein did the reverse--extrapolated short term with greater magnitude and slightly lesser accuracy).
It's a great piece to study the history of SF, an entertaining story, and a relevant part of the background for the "I, Robot" movie. Certainly worth the read, and fun despite its imperfections.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
elesa labanz
I love this book and the series. I read all of them when they came out. Excellent blend of mystery and sci fi. They are very well written and the books keeping you guessing. I saw the Smith movie. I tried to keep an open mind. I felt it didn't follow the tone of the books. If it did it would have been a better movie. Stay with the book!
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
lynds
This is truley a classic when the genre of AI is visited. Asimov's detective thriller brings about the questions of the downfall of technology. Are human beings replacable? By machines no less? This is the question a Detective Elijah Baley asks himself along with his wife and the commisioner and a vast other peoples in this urban world. What I believe is most interesting about this novel is not the intarrogations of robotics, though that is very inticing, but the fact that this book is really about mankind's struggle with himself and his self-destructive tendencies. The robots only expose this corruption in man's nature.
Set in a gluttonous city of twenty-million, the future of New York, this book also gives a very noir type of feel. The livelihood of Earthmen is continously spiralling downward in comfort and basic needs. People lose their jobs to robots. People are crowded into dinning halls for any type of meal. Only the very wealthy are allowed to live on the top levels of the city where sun still shines. This book allows the reader to understand future concerns with very a comparable mood.
Set in a gluttonous city of twenty-million, the future of New York, this book also gives a very noir type of feel. The livelihood of Earthmen is continously spiralling downward in comfort and basic needs. People lose their jobs to robots. People are crowded into dinning halls for any type of meal. Only the very wealthy are allowed to live on the top levels of the city where sun still shines. This book allows the reader to understand future concerns with very a comparable mood.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
hazel butler
This is the best of Isaac Asimov's series of robot novels.
The reason that Asimov claimed that he tried to write science fiction mysteries, in the beginning, was that John W. Campbell Jr, the then editor of Astounding Science Fiction, had claimed once that SF and Mysteries couldn't really be mixed as genre. His reasoning being that the author could be very unfair to the reader and pull a delux ax machina out of the hat. Asimov basically thought an author could do that in just about any mystrry and wrote an SF Mystery to prove it could be done.
Elijah Baley is Sherlock Holmes and R. Daneel Olivaw is Dr. Watson. That is not just an accident really, Asimov was a great fan of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes stories.
It is also a great look at what a future earth could be like with regards to Population Growth. An issue that Asimov harped on in several of his science essay's that appeared in "The Magazine of Science Fiction and Fantasy" over the years.
Along with _Foundation_, this novel forms the bedrock of Asimov's Foundation-Galactic Empire-Robot series of novels and some short stories. A very good book.
The reason that Asimov claimed that he tried to write science fiction mysteries, in the beginning, was that John W. Campbell Jr, the then editor of Astounding Science Fiction, had claimed once that SF and Mysteries couldn't really be mixed as genre. His reasoning being that the author could be very unfair to the reader and pull a delux ax machina out of the hat. Asimov basically thought an author could do that in just about any mystrry and wrote an SF Mystery to prove it could be done.
Elijah Baley is Sherlock Holmes and R. Daneel Olivaw is Dr. Watson. That is not just an accident really, Asimov was a great fan of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes stories.
It is also a great look at what a future earth could be like with regards to Population Growth. An issue that Asimov harped on in several of his science essay's that appeared in "The Magazine of Science Fiction and Fantasy" over the years.
Along with _Foundation_, this novel forms the bedrock of Asimov's Foundation-Galactic Empire-Robot series of novels and some short stories. A very good book.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
rajani
This is one of Asimov's best science fiction novels. The description of New York, in a future where Earth's cities are built underground (for fear of attack from other planets colonised by humans), is totally convincing. The people of Earth are agorophobic and live in standardised, basic conditions due to overpopulation and scarcity of resources. Asimov's description is fascinating. The novel also deals with robots in detail, according to Asimov's famous Three Laws which govern their behaviour. Asimov writes some very interesting speculation on robot psychology and attitude towards humans, and their attitude towards the robots. This novel really shows Asimov's talent for writng intelligent science fiction and plausible future history. It is mainly a mystery story, and althogh I haven't read many detective novels, I thoght it was well written and the ending was surprising. Before reading this novel, I would recommend reading Asimov's short stories dealing with robots. These deal with the early development of robots, and make what happens in this book clearer. 'The Caves of Steel' is followed by more Robot novels, and then the Galactic Empire and Foundation novels. You should read the whole series, but make sure you read them in order. Like all of Asimov's novels, this book has a clever plot and is very thought provoking. A must if you're a serious science fiction fan.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
john moore
In the not-too-distant future, the human race has begun colonization of other worlds. But the new worlds' residents, the Spacers, are not in thrall of Earth, rather they hold Earth by the throat. Now, in the one Spacer locale on the homeworld of humanity, a prominent spacer has been murdered. Tasked with capturing the murderer, Elijah Baley, a resident of the largest human City, essentially large hives mostly underground, must team with a human-appearing robot to solve the crime. Robots, however, are not very well regarded on Earth at this time, so Elijah must overcome his own bias in order to work effectively with Robot Daneel Olivaw. The book details many of the conditions of overpopulated Earth and the eternally enclosed humans, who now have an unreasoning fear of the outdoors. The politics between the Spacers and the native Earthmen is also discussed in detail. Overall, this is a very well-balanced story which begins the robot series, continuing from the basis Asimov set in his collection Robot stories in I, ROBOT.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
janna sevilla
Take a complex scifi novel and meld it with a hardboiled murder mystery -- the result is "Caves of Steel." Isaac Asimov's most famous series about a future society infused with robotics continues with this book, a genre-bending trip into the future. Plenty of whodunnits and political tension, not to mention more robots --as well as a likable down-to-earth hero and his android sidekick.
Elijah Bailey, a cop in the future domed New York, is called to investigate a murder: a Spacer scientist was killed in Spacetown. Things get even worse when Lije is assigned a detective partner, Daneel Olivaw, who isn't just a Spacer -- but also a robot, albeit one who looks exactly like a human. Despite his dislike for Spacers and robots alike, Lije begins investigating the death of the scientist (who also created Daneel in his own image). Even so, his prejudices start to get in his way.
But the further Daneel and Lije dig, the more complex -- and sinister -- the mystery becomes. There are the Spacers, who have plans for Earth that almost no one knows about. There are the Medievalists, a growing faction of romantic-minded Earth citizens who long for the "good old days" and hate robots with a passion. And soon Lije discovers that the murderer might just be closer to him than he thinks...
"Caves" has aged remarkably well, considering that much of the futuristic stuff isn't particularly impressive anymore. But it's the layout of Asimov's futuristic civilization that is so impressive -- there are the overcrowded, resentful, technophobic Earth people, and the lofty, sparse, technology-loving Spacers. The vast cultural differences and friction give a feeling of deep realism. Neither civilization is portrayed as being wholly bad or good -- each has its moral and logical pros and cons. Are we headed for this? Maybe. Asimov doesn't preach too hard.
There are also deeper currents to a book that seems, on the surface, to be a straightforward SF/mystery. Asimov explores the mistrust, fear, lack of logic, and ignorance that keep people apart. The Spacers and Earth people have let their differences become mistrust: The overcrowded Earth people are crammed like sardines, with little food and highly regulated lives. The Spacers are underpopulated, live in luxury, and are assisted by robots.
Lije is a likable guy from the start; Asimov doesn't make him brilliant (he makes two erroneous accusions before figuring out the mystery) or lacking in biases. But he is determined to overcome his own shortcomings; his open-minded attitude is well-done. Daneel makes up for Lije's shortcomings by being logical and unbiased, but he doesn't have Lije's imagination -- and he's a wonderfully endearing android sidekick.
"Caves of Steel" is a solid mingling of hard sci-fi and murder mystery, with a likable pair of protagonists -- it may not be as convincing a picture of the future, but the plot and characters make up for it.
Elijah Bailey, a cop in the future domed New York, is called to investigate a murder: a Spacer scientist was killed in Spacetown. Things get even worse when Lije is assigned a detective partner, Daneel Olivaw, who isn't just a Spacer -- but also a robot, albeit one who looks exactly like a human. Despite his dislike for Spacers and robots alike, Lije begins investigating the death of the scientist (who also created Daneel in his own image). Even so, his prejudices start to get in his way.
But the further Daneel and Lije dig, the more complex -- and sinister -- the mystery becomes. There are the Spacers, who have plans for Earth that almost no one knows about. There are the Medievalists, a growing faction of romantic-minded Earth citizens who long for the "good old days" and hate robots with a passion. And soon Lije discovers that the murderer might just be closer to him than he thinks...
"Caves" has aged remarkably well, considering that much of the futuristic stuff isn't particularly impressive anymore. But it's the layout of Asimov's futuristic civilization that is so impressive -- there are the overcrowded, resentful, technophobic Earth people, and the lofty, sparse, technology-loving Spacers. The vast cultural differences and friction give a feeling of deep realism. Neither civilization is portrayed as being wholly bad or good -- each has its moral and logical pros and cons. Are we headed for this? Maybe. Asimov doesn't preach too hard.
There are also deeper currents to a book that seems, on the surface, to be a straightforward SF/mystery. Asimov explores the mistrust, fear, lack of logic, and ignorance that keep people apart. The Spacers and Earth people have let their differences become mistrust: The overcrowded Earth people are crammed like sardines, with little food and highly regulated lives. The Spacers are underpopulated, live in luxury, and are assisted by robots.
Lije is a likable guy from the start; Asimov doesn't make him brilliant (he makes two erroneous accusions before figuring out the mystery) or lacking in biases. But he is determined to overcome his own shortcomings; his open-minded attitude is well-done. Daneel makes up for Lije's shortcomings by being logical and unbiased, but he doesn't have Lije's imagination -- and he's a wonderfully endearing android sidekick.
"Caves of Steel" is a solid mingling of hard sci-fi and murder mystery, with a likable pair of protagonists -- it may not be as convincing a picture of the future, but the plot and characters make up for it.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
lisa adcock
Caves of Steel is the story of detective Elijah Baley.
Called in to investigate a murder in Spacetown
and to be teamed up with robot Daneel Olivaw.
Interesting stuff in itself.
But on top of that the reader gets a story crammed
with lots of interesting asides on the robots.
Robots who are indeed both complicated and fascinating.
As R. Daneel Olivaw, himself, explains to detective
Baleys son in the novel!
And down there in the future NYC, womb-city, metropolis,
robots are feared,
- Despite of their friendship circuits,
and despite a Spacer project of converting Earth to an integrated human/robot society.
R. Daneel does his best to blend in.
Cerebroanalyzing potentiel unfriendlies and having
the trouble of occasional removal of organic material
from his interior, as he plays the part of eating.
Wonderful stuff.
Would make a great movie!
-Simon
Called in to investigate a murder in Spacetown
and to be teamed up with robot Daneel Olivaw.
Interesting stuff in itself.
But on top of that the reader gets a story crammed
with lots of interesting asides on the robots.
Robots who are indeed both complicated and fascinating.
As R. Daneel Olivaw, himself, explains to detective
Baleys son in the novel!
And down there in the future NYC, womb-city, metropolis,
robots are feared,
- Despite of their friendship circuits,
and despite a Spacer project of converting Earth to an integrated human/robot society.
R. Daneel does his best to blend in.
Cerebroanalyzing potentiel unfriendlies and having
the trouble of occasional removal of organic material
from his interior, as he plays the part of eating.
Wonderful stuff.
Would make a great movie!
-Simon
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
tara o hagan
It's rare to read a mystery by Asimov. Well, not rare because there are many mysteries in the Foundation novels, but to read a murder mystery proper with a detective partnered with a robot, no less, is frankly delectable. This one is a must read for any Asimov fan. And the beginning of the robot series. Thank you.
★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆
bakios
Asimov is well known as a science fiction writer and this book is supposed to be a science fiction/detective story "fusion" book. Apparently Asimov wanted to demonstrate that science fiction could meld with other genres (according to the book cover). The detective partners in the story are a cop and a very human-looking robot. But the "detection" seems to consist of the cop just accusing one person after another - he doesn't even question suspects. Not such a good "fusion"... but later books in the series do get better.(
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
mbess
Asimov, one of the greatest science fiction writers of all time, shows a world of the future filled with political and technological conflicts between earthlings and the Spacers - people from outside planets.
This book works in two ways. It gives an excellent picture of the future, while also presenting a great murder mystery. From pedestrian highways, planet colonies, robot-human conflict, to over-population, the future is presented in a way that relates to modern society and modern problems. This gives the reader a greater understanding of the setting compared to most other books.
The mystery itself is also very intriguing. Who killed the Spacer? Would the human looking robot be accepted by his partner? What were the political ramifications of this murder? All these problems become apparent throughout this book, and makes the book even more interesting as you read along.
I highly recommend this book, as it is one Asimov's finest.
This book works in two ways. It gives an excellent picture of the future, while also presenting a great murder mystery. From pedestrian highways, planet colonies, robot-human conflict, to over-population, the future is presented in a way that relates to modern society and modern problems. This gives the reader a greater understanding of the setting compared to most other books.
The mystery itself is also very intriguing. Who killed the Spacer? Would the human looking robot be accepted by his partner? What were the political ramifications of this murder? All these problems become apparent throughout this book, and makes the book even more interesting as you read along.
I highly recommend this book, as it is one Asimov's finest.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
bhavin
"The Caves of Steel" is a wonderful beginning to an awesome science fiction series involving Elijah Baley and R. Daneel Olivaw. This is the story of an agoraphobic (afraid of open places) plainclothes cop Elijah Baley, accustomed to living inside the large cities of future Earth, teaming up with technological masterpiece R. Daneel Olivaw to solve a murder in the nearby Spacer community. Daneel, a relatively new creation, learns about human behavior from his robot prejudice partner and restricted in his behavior by what is known as the Laws of Robotics. People of earth, also agoraphobic, will challenge the solution for the case from many angles because of their social limitations. The murder case is exciting to follow especially given the interaction between Elijah and Daneel.
Thank you.
Thank you.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
constance scharff
I loved the superb logic puzzle, which all great mysteries have. It was also presented the evolution of humanity in an interesting light, particularly the agoraphobic and social aspects. If you enjoyed this, you might also enjoy Cognition Chronicles: The Redstone Legacy
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
evelyn
The only reason I've rated this book only four stars is because some of Asimov's later books in the same series, written later in his career (Naked Sun, Robots of Dawn) get even better. However, this is where you need to begin--don't jump ahead. This is a thought-provoking and entertaining read in its own right.
Asimov combines the mystery genre and many of his futurist ideas together in this series. You'll enter a world where people live underground because there isn't enough living space, and where many people have grown resentful of robots that are taking over jobs that humans once held. Not only do you get to experience a great mystery-adventure, but you're also exploring the social consequences of near-human robots and the continued urbanization of the Earth.
Daneel Olivaw, the robot partner to detective Elijah Baley, is one of the most memorable characters in the field of speculative fiction.
This is the best place to start reading Asimov. If you enjoy this, you will absolutely love the sequels. After reading the Robots books, try the Foundation series, which starts slower but gets very good--and ultimately rewards readers of the Robot books by tieing it all together.
Asimov combines the mystery genre and many of his futurist ideas together in this series. You'll enter a world where people live underground because there isn't enough living space, and where many people have grown resentful of robots that are taking over jobs that humans once held. Not only do you get to experience a great mystery-adventure, but you're also exploring the social consequences of near-human robots and the continued urbanization of the Earth.
Daneel Olivaw, the robot partner to detective Elijah Baley, is one of the most memorable characters in the field of speculative fiction.
This is the best place to start reading Asimov. If you enjoy this, you will absolutely love the sequels. After reading the Robots books, try the Foundation series, which starts slower but gets very good--and ultimately rewards readers of the Robot books by tieing it all together.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
linda schnetzer
This is one of the best science fiction novels because all of the elements re-inforce each other. They mystery is interesting in itself but also gives a pretext for describing a vast future metropolis, from the "yeast farms" to the transportation system. The characters have been molded by their environment: they have a phobia for going outside the crowded city, and they have developed intricate social customs to avoid tripping over each other all the time. Asimov also comes up with a plausible reason as to why a single murder could have interstellar repercussions. Best of all, he avoided making his hero the macho type that runs around with blasters blazing: Baley has his quirks, but he THINKS his way to the solution.
★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆
tommy
I have to agree with other three star reviewers - this is not a very well written story. I have been reading Asimov for forty years and as a youngster I saw no fault, but as a mature adult his characters do not read well fifty years later, especially in this book. So for Asimov devotees and the robot novel fans, then it's must read I suppose, but as a good, well written story with fully fleshed characters, not so much. Also, I'd like to point out what others have not mentioned - the very poor way Asimov treats the single female character in this book. Asimov has never dealt with women in any of his books in a realistic way. He did get marginally better over the years, however in Caves, Jessie is treated as if she were an emotional idiot rather than a grown woman married to a high-ranking detective. Maybe it's the way women were expected to behave in mid-fifties (hysterical, illogical, somewhat dumb), but for modern readers it's an insult to the female gender.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
enrique
The first of the Elijah Baley trilogy, in which New York City detective Lije Baley must deal with the culture of the spacers -- humans whose ancestors abandoned earth to form a galactic empire, who have become much more powerful than the crowded millions who remain on Earth. A spacer has been killed on Earth, and Baley must cooperate with the spacers' robot detective, R. Daneel Olivaw. The characters (even the robot's) are engaging, and the world that Asimov creates is fascinating.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
ankita gogoi
Aside from being a fun science fiction slueth story, Caves of Steel presents an incredible picture of human society as it may come to us in the future. I found that this aspect of the book-- depicting how people will react to the advent of robots on the commercial scene as well as what happens to people in general(their dislike of open spaces and uncontrolled elements)-- was just as interesting if not more so than the storyline. Certainly it is more to Asimov's credit that he could write this sort of novel with such an insightful vision of the future than it would be if he just polluted the book market with yet another good mystery novel. I tend to favor the Grandmaster's older fiction more than his newer, except in the case of Foundation's Edge, which I found to be a fantastic book.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
karen andriolo
This is one of the few science fiction books I've read, and I only decided to do so after it was the selected read for a book group on another Web site. To my surprise, I enjoyed the novel immensely.
In a futuristic, severely over-populated New York City, a rigid class system dictates how and where people may dine and bathe, the city is built-up to such an extent that people never go outside, and humans' relationships with those from other planets ("Spacers") and robots are strained.
Since humans resist robot technology and are seen as inferior by "Spacers," Elijah Baley is presented with a unique set of challenges when he is partnered with robot R. Daneel to solve the murder of a high-ranking "Spacer." Baley's career and the well-being of his family are at stake as he and R. Daneel rush to solve the crime.
As others mentioned, the book does show its age and has some religious undertones that don't always seem to fit into the story. As someone who is new to the genre, however, I enjoyed reading about the world Asimov created, and the mystery kept me guessing. For some reason, I was expecting the book to be dry, but I found it to be a fun read!
In a futuristic, severely over-populated New York City, a rigid class system dictates how and where people may dine and bathe, the city is built-up to such an extent that people never go outside, and humans' relationships with those from other planets ("Spacers") and robots are strained.
Since humans resist robot technology and are seen as inferior by "Spacers," Elijah Baley is presented with a unique set of challenges when he is partnered with robot R. Daneel to solve the murder of a high-ranking "Spacer." Baley's career and the well-being of his family are at stake as he and R. Daneel rush to solve the crime.
As others mentioned, the book does show its age and has some religious undertones that don't always seem to fit into the story. As someone who is new to the genre, however, I enjoyed reading about the world Asimov created, and the mystery kept me guessing. For some reason, I was expecting the book to be dry, but I found it to be a fun read!
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
swetha amit
One of my favourite series of any type. Asimov's earlier books (his later ones are dull and full of padding) were always short (about 200 pages) and didn't have any filling. The characters aren't drawn in depth but his books are easy to read and when you know what to expect you'll find his books very entertaining. Another reviewer called this book shallow and only worth reading on the beach, but what's wrong with that? Not all of us have the luxury of a quiet environment in which to read (try having kids) and we have to leave the likes of Dickens and Hardy until our later years!!
Buy it! You won't be sorry!
Buy it! You won't be sorry!
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
kate chandler
I had read the book over 40 years ago, but didn't remember the details. New readers might find it a little dated. Still, it's by ISAAC ASIMOV! Only the greatest influence on science fiction in the history of science fiction.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
tdashwolf
The positronic brain is the new disruption of the earth. People have lost their jobs, and now, Elijah Baley is paired up with R. Daneel Olivaw. (R. for robot.) It is a book of where Elijah does not trust his partner, but little does he no that Daneel will turn out to be his best friend...
If you read this one, ya gotta read them all!
They pull you in and you digest it as well as Daneel digests food!
(You have to read the book to find out what that means!)
I'ts One Of The Best Asimov's I've Read!
I loved it, and hopefully you will too!
If you read this one, ya gotta read them all!
They pull you in and you digest it as well as Daneel digests food!
(You have to read the book to find out what that means!)
I'ts One Of The Best Asimov's I've Read!
I loved it, and hopefully you will too!
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
neil meyer
I enjoyed reading Caves of Steel. After I finish the book I'm reading now I will buy the next Isaac Asimov book. Normally I'm not much of a reader but after reading Caves of Steel I'm energized about reading again. I just hope this continues as I'm really enjoying reading again!
Jon
Jon
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
alexandra gibbs
Let me confess up front, Asimov's craft occasionally leaves me wondering why I invest the time. The first several chapters brought a sense of deja vu as I struggled to understand the direction this book was headed. Set up as a murder mystery a thousand years in the future, there seemed to be no investigative movement. No examination of relevant facts, clues or even a satisfactory description of the crime scene. More emphasis is placed on the politics of the futuristic society and an invective against prejudice. Well into the story, I began to care about a satisfactory outcome and even felt compassion for the detective's robot partner. The last half of the book was a page turner.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
deeann
Asimov's wonderful mystery/science fiction novel that sets the stage for his whole robot series has a good mystery plot. The whole book's setting, however, is in some ways more interesting. The idea of a future Earth as being a few huge cities with tens of millions of people who have never seen the light of day is disturbing and thought-provoking. Though the mystery is not extrodinarily complex, it is interesting when put together with the setting which makes the book even more interesting. I highly recommend this book.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
shanti
I started reading Isaac Asimov when I was eight years old (mostly because my father enjoyed the books). Caves of Steel and The Naked Sun are both books everyone should read. They are Sci Fi , mysteries, and detective stories all rolled into two books. I rate them each as most excellent. As you probably know, Asimov also wrote "I,Robot"....another excellent one.
I will continue to re-read these two over the years and with greatest enjoyment.
Frances J. Jessup, eclectic reader
I will continue to re-read these two over the years and with greatest enjoyment.
Frances J. Jessup, eclectic reader
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
hossein
The first of the Elijah Baley trilogy, in which New York City detective Lije Baley must deal with the culture of the spacers -- humans whose ancestors abandoned earth to form a galactic empire, who have become much more powerful than the crowded millions who remain on Earth. A spacer has been killed on Earth, and Baley must cooperate with the spacers' robot detective, R. Daneel Olivaw. The characters (even the robot's) are engaging, and the world that Asimov creates is fascinating.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
nooshin
Aside from being a fun science fiction slueth story, Caves of Steel presents an incredible picture of human society as it may come to us in the future. I found that this aspect of the book-- depicting how people will react to the advent of robots on the commercial scene as well as what happens to people in general(their dislike of open spaces and uncontrolled elements)-- was just as interesting if not more so than the storyline. Certainly it is more to Asimov's credit that he could write this sort of novel with such an insightful vision of the future than it would be if he just polluted the book market with yet another good mystery novel. I tend to favor the Grandmaster's older fiction more than his newer, except in the case of Foundation's Edge, which I found to be a fantastic book.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
susan oleksiw
This is one of the few science fiction books I've read, and I only decided to do so after it was the selected read for a book group on another Web site. To my surprise, I enjoyed the novel immensely.
In a futuristic, severely over-populated New York City, a rigid class system dictates how and where people may dine and bathe, the city is built-up to such an extent that people never go outside, and humans' relationships with those from other planets ("Spacers") and robots are strained.
Since humans resist robot technology and are seen as inferior by "Spacers," Elijah Baley is presented with a unique set of challenges when he is partnered with robot R. Daneel to solve the murder of a high-ranking "Spacer." Baley's career and the well-being of his family are at stake as he and R. Daneel rush to solve the crime.
As others mentioned, the book does show its age and has some religious undertones that don't always seem to fit into the story. As someone who is new to the genre, however, I enjoyed reading about the world Asimov created, and the mystery kept me guessing. For some reason, I was expecting the book to be dry, but I found it to be a fun read!
In a futuristic, severely over-populated New York City, a rigid class system dictates how and where people may dine and bathe, the city is built-up to such an extent that people never go outside, and humans' relationships with those from other planets ("Spacers") and robots are strained.
Since humans resist robot technology and are seen as inferior by "Spacers," Elijah Baley is presented with a unique set of challenges when he is partnered with robot R. Daneel to solve the murder of a high-ranking "Spacer." Baley's career and the well-being of his family are at stake as he and R. Daneel rush to solve the crime.
As others mentioned, the book does show its age and has some religious undertones that don't always seem to fit into the story. As someone who is new to the genre, however, I enjoyed reading about the world Asimov created, and the mystery kept me guessing. For some reason, I was expecting the book to be dry, but I found it to be a fun read!
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
michael smit
One of my favourite series of any type. Asimov's earlier books (his later ones are dull and full of padding) were always short (about 200 pages) and didn't have any filling. The characters aren't drawn in depth but his books are easy to read and when you know what to expect you'll find his books very entertaining. Another reviewer called this book shallow and only worth reading on the beach, but what's wrong with that? Not all of us have the luxury of a quiet environment in which to read (try having kids) and we have to leave the likes of Dickens and Hardy until our later years!!
Buy it! You won't be sorry!
Buy it! You won't be sorry!
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
ashley westra
I had read the book over 40 years ago, but didn't remember the details. New readers might find it a little dated. Still, it's by ISAAC ASIMOV! Only the greatest influence on science fiction in the history of science fiction.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
cyndee
The positronic brain is the new disruption of the earth. People have lost their jobs, and now, Elijah Baley is paired up with R. Daneel Olivaw. (R. for robot.) It is a book of where Elijah does not trust his partner, but little does he no that Daneel will turn out to be his best friend...
If you read this one, ya gotta read them all!
They pull you in and you digest it as well as Daneel digests food!
(You have to read the book to find out what that means!)
I'ts One Of The Best Asimov's I've Read!
I loved it, and hopefully you will too!
If you read this one, ya gotta read them all!
They pull you in and you digest it as well as Daneel digests food!
(You have to read the book to find out what that means!)
I'ts One Of The Best Asimov's I've Read!
I loved it, and hopefully you will too!
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
jchiu6
I enjoyed reading Caves of Steel. After I finish the book I'm reading now I will buy the next Isaac Asimov book. Normally I'm not much of a reader but after reading Caves of Steel I'm energized about reading again. I just hope this continues as I'm really enjoying reading again!
Jon
Jon
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
danne stayskal
Let me confess up front, Asimov's craft occasionally leaves me wondering why I invest the time. The first several chapters brought a sense of deja vu as I struggled to understand the direction this book was headed. Set up as a murder mystery a thousand years in the future, there seemed to be no investigative movement. No examination of relevant facts, clues or even a satisfactory description of the crime scene. More emphasis is placed on the politics of the futuristic society and an invective against prejudice. Well into the story, I began to care about a satisfactory outcome and even felt compassion for the detective's robot partner. The last half of the book was a page turner.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
jacqueline simonds
Asimov's wonderful mystery/science fiction novel that sets the stage for his whole robot series has a good mystery plot. The whole book's setting, however, is in some ways more interesting. The idea of a future Earth as being a few huge cities with tens of millions of people who have never seen the light of day is disturbing and thought-provoking. Though the mystery is not extrodinarily complex, it is interesting when put together with the setting which makes the book even more interesting. I highly recommend this book.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
kristine g
I started reading Isaac Asimov when I was eight years old (mostly because my father enjoyed the books). Caves of Steel and The Naked Sun are both books everyone should read. They are Sci Fi , mysteries, and detective stories all rolled into two books. I rate them each as most excellent. As you probably know, Asimov also wrote "I,Robot"....another excellent one.
I will continue to re-read these two over the years and with greatest enjoyment.
Frances J. Jessup, eclectic reader
I will continue to re-read these two over the years and with greatest enjoyment.
Frances J. Jessup, eclectic reader
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
auro
One of the classics of Science Fiction, this book has lost nothing in the years since it was written. The second book in Asimov's 15 volumes of the history of the Galactic Empire, and the first in the 'Robot Novel' series, it's a must read.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
farah
This book merges 2 of my favourite genres- Scifi and detective.
Earth is in a bad state. Most humans are just scraping through. A few humans moved to the space, and these spacers have the real power now. They are rich and powerful, and the humans hate them. So when one of the spacers is murdered, there is threat of a war, and a detective must solve the case before Earth is invaded.
The title of the book refers to the fact that most humans(in the future) live in caves of steel-they work in huge metal factories, live in closed homes; they have no idea what goes on in the world outside. Since this is Asimov, he uses this metaphor to explore mankind's destiny, and the fact that we must struggle mediocrity and rise to greatness.
But don't let the philosophy distract you; this is an entertaining book on its own.
Earth is in a bad state. Most humans are just scraping through. A few humans moved to the space, and these spacers have the real power now. They are rich and powerful, and the humans hate them. So when one of the spacers is murdered, there is threat of a war, and a detective must solve the case before Earth is invaded.
The title of the book refers to the fact that most humans(in the future) live in caves of steel-they work in huge metal factories, live in closed homes; they have no idea what goes on in the world outside. Since this is Asimov, he uses this metaphor to explore mankind's destiny, and the fact that we must struggle mediocrity and rise to greatness.
But don't let the philosophy distract you; this is an entertaining book on its own.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
nowie
Asimov could not have foreseen everything about the future when he wrote this, but did an amazing job predicting technologies we have today that were dreams 60 years ago. Even so, some of the obsolescent things like wire recordings that didn't survive the '50s add a quaint amusement nonetheless. I've been reading his books in a mostly chronological sequence and you can see the young Asimov's storytelling skills and style growing.
★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆
anah83
This is one of the seminal novels in Asimov's massive, disorganized (in my view), and self-contadictory history of the future. It all started with the Foundation Trilogy, which is one of the greatest works of the golden age of scifi, but it continued far too long, perhaps in part to the brute necessity of making a living as a writer. Asimov had a massive ego and wrote too much too fast, but when he is good, he is very good.
This book pales in comparison to the FTrilogy, but it is OK. Good story, seminal characters that re-appear later and then much later. If you are an Asimov devotee, this is a must read, second only to FTrilogy. But if you are a hard scifi fan, seeking great scifi, this is mediocre at best.
Tepidly recommended.
This book pales in comparison to the FTrilogy, but it is OK. Good story, seminal characters that re-appear later and then much later. If you are an Asimov devotee, this is a must read, second only to FTrilogy. But if you are a hard scifi fan, seeking great scifi, this is mediocre at best.
Tepidly recommended.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
julie page
I have read, in greater or lesser detail, most of the reviews of this book. That there are so many testifies to its popularity, although most people find something to complain about in it. The plot is weak, the characterization feeble, it was written too fast, the mystery wouldn't fool anyone with half a brain, and so on.
Asimov was not the greatest writer of all time, but he had a cunning brain. He was also able to think up an idea and put a novel twist on it. Read his short crime stories to see this. They are just puzzles with initial conditions, a method of operation, then a solution that follows the strictest line of reasoning.
This book is a typical Victorian murder story. All the conditions are given: they are precise, and are solved using clean logic by a brain that has no intrinsic humanity; that is Daneel, or Sherlock Holmes as we would call him. Assisted and hindered at all times by a man typical of the world he lives in.
Steeped in the dubious morals produced by his society, but fundamentally sound, Lije, or Dr Watson, would get nowhere without his poweful mentor; but Daneel would never even get started without Dr Watson to bridge the gap for him between his own superior intellect and these poor, nearly blind creatures that make up the human race.
Consider, read and enjoy.
Asimov was not the greatest writer of all time, but he had a cunning brain. He was also able to think up an idea and put a novel twist on it. Read his short crime stories to see this. They are just puzzles with initial conditions, a method of operation, then a solution that follows the strictest line of reasoning.
This book is a typical Victorian murder story. All the conditions are given: they are precise, and are solved using clean logic by a brain that has no intrinsic humanity; that is Daneel, or Sherlock Holmes as we would call him. Assisted and hindered at all times by a man typical of the world he lives in.
Steeped in the dubious morals produced by his society, but fundamentally sound, Lije, or Dr Watson, would get nowhere without his poweful mentor; but Daneel would never even get started without Dr Watson to bridge the gap for him between his own superior intellect and these poor, nearly blind creatures that make up the human race.
Consider, read and enjoy.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
bunni l angour
This is a real breakthru work. Written in the mid-fifties, it still stands up well. Very interesting main characters - Elijah and Daneel... it is a quick and fun read... of the hundreds of SciFi books I've read, I'd have to say that this is my favorite. The followup book The Naked Sun, is also top-notch work.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
clara
This was a delightful book and it, along with The Naked Sun, are good reads today, and splendid examples of the beginning of modern science fiction. Asimov is good--the story will ring as true today as it did decades ago when it was written. I bought them not long ago, having read that they were his first Robot novels, and I loved them.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
heather laslie
You will surprise how logical those robot stories go. The ending is very surprising but in the logical sense it is not strange at all. The logic makes everything possible! If you like thriller and sci-fi just try this and satisfaction is guaranteed. Also this book gives the sense how the Earth has changed and caused the later consequences, which are shown in other books. You will enjoy the style, storyline, the characters and everything in the book!
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
matt kovalcik
Incredible, insightful, Asimov is truly an innovative author. Despite its age, Caves of Steel remains relevant and plausible, showing us that even though we've advanced technologically, there are fundamental questions we continue to ask when formulating new ideology of A.I.
★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆
mary albright
A fictional cop usually will get the partner that annoys him the most, to start with.
At least here, the detective type gets to work with a robot, not Eddie Murphy. Not everyone is a big fan of the robot, as it looks like they will replace people's jobs.
This ill-matched dueo has to investigate the murder of a prominent citizen of one of the colonized Spacer worlds.
At least here, the detective type gets to work with a robot, not Eddie Murphy. Not everyone is a big fan of the robot, as it looks like they will replace people's jobs.
This ill-matched dueo has to investigate the murder of a prominent citizen of one of the colonized Spacer worlds.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
aubrie kohlhas
this book was well-rounded good entertainment with a lil' science on the side which is always nice. It combines mystery, imagination, and intelligence into a real good book. It takes place thousands of years from now and creates a pretty interesting, but sad, world. good stuff.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
aidah bakri
I really enjoyed this book. This book is sci-fi mixed with mystery. It has social and possible future conflict as well. It has something for everyone. I recommend this book to anyone one who likes fiction and to Asimov fans, it is a must read.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
grant vice
I'm taking a walk down memory lane and re-reading the Robot/Foundation series. Using the I.A. website, I'm reading in story chronological order. Even this time through, I'm need to stick to a reading schedule, otherwise, I lose track of eat, sleep, and family time!
Never out of date in my singular opinion.
Never out of date in my singular opinion.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
thomas brown
Whether or not you're a fan of Science Fiction or Isaac Asimov, this book is a must read. It is one of the greatest mysteries I have ever read. By the end of the book, every character has been accused of committing the crime even though they could not have. It will throw you through loop after loop, wondering where the ground is, and then it will assure you it was right under your feet the whole time. A MASTERPIECE.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
nalini akolekar
Incredible, insightful, Asimov is truly an innovative author. Despite its age, Caves of Steel remains relevant and plausible, showing us that even though we've advanced technologically, there are fundamental questions we continue to ask when formulating new ideology of A.I.
★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆
tommckee123
A fictional cop usually will get the partner that annoys him the most, to start with.
At least here, the detective type gets to work with a robot, not Eddie Murphy. Not everyone is a big fan of the robot, as it looks like they will replace people's jobs.
This ill-matched dueo has to investigate the murder of a prominent citizen of one of the colonized Spacer worlds.
At least here, the detective type gets to work with a robot, not Eddie Murphy. Not everyone is a big fan of the robot, as it looks like they will replace people's jobs.
This ill-matched dueo has to investigate the murder of a prominent citizen of one of the colonized Spacer worlds.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
skooter
this book was well-rounded good entertainment with a lil' science on the side which is always nice. It combines mystery, imagination, and intelligence into a real good book. It takes place thousands of years from now and creates a pretty interesting, but sad, world. good stuff.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
alejandro monsivais
I really enjoyed this book. This book is sci-fi mixed with mystery. It has social and possible future conflict as well. It has something for everyone. I recommend this book to anyone one who likes fiction and to Asimov fans, it is a must read.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
rasmus
I'm taking a walk down memory lane and re-reading the Robot/Foundation series. Using the I.A. website, I'm reading in story chronological order. Even this time through, I'm need to stick to a reading schedule, otherwise, I lose track of eat, sleep, and family time!
Never out of date in my singular opinion.
Never out of date in my singular opinion.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
linda midcap
Whether or not you're a fan of Science Fiction or Isaac Asimov, this book is a must read. It is one of the greatest mysteries I have ever read. By the end of the book, every character has been accused of committing the crime even though they could not have. It will throw you through loop after loop, wondering where the ground is, and then it will assure you it was right under your feet the whole time. A MASTERPIECE.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
ian mullet
Asimov tells a futuristic detective story rife with examples of human foibles, both strengths and weaknesses. He brilliantly creates a potent of a plausible future. If you like true science fiction, then you'll really like Robot Daneel and Detective Lije Baley's murder investigation through its twist and turns.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
dinah
After reading the Foundation series, I found that I was missing something: something about a story of a robot and earth. This novel, though short, is a mystery about a murder, but with ideas throughout and such potential for future writings I'm ready to read the next one.
If you enjoy Sci-Fi: read it. Suggested that you read I, Robot first, but definitely not required.
If you enjoy Sci-Fi: read it. Suggested that you read I, Robot first, but definitely not required.
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shannah
This is chronologically the first book in Isaac Asimov's Galactic series. If you are interested in the Foundation or Empire series, you should definetly read this book and the rest of the Robot Series. They are all great books and provide important background for Asimov's future novels. The events in this book do not have as big an effect on history as some of the later books in this series but it is still a great book and a must read for any Asimov fan.
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opolla
This book is incredible in that it can be entertaining on so many levels. It delves into a science fiction/murder mystery and still manages to establish two of the most enjoyable characters that asimov ever created. The characxter development is incredible and as it also starts Asimov's Robot mystery series, I recomend this book to all fans of Science fiction, or mysteries.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
miranda beridze
In his usual manner, Dr.Asimov has given the world of Science Fiction one of its enduring classics. Precursor to his classic Empire and Foundation novels, The Caves of Steel is an excellent murder mystery, as well as an exploration of an agoraphobic future earth. I trust that no one will figure out the mystery beforehand. Another of Asimov's best.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
lisa jenio
This is an excellent book, from beginning to end. This is probably the best sci-fi book I have read so far. This book is well written with things i barely understand, such as a positronic brain. If you enjoy mysteries you can only guess at, this is also a VERY good book! I think this "The Caves of Steel" deserves the 5 stars!
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thurston hunger
I'm not a fan of the books about robots, but this excellent futuristic detective novel has made me a fan of Isaac Asimov. There are intrigating riddles, a nice plot and, so common to the writer, a totally surprising end.
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joel farkas
This was my way in to Asimov.
I found it a very entertaining, fluently written sci-fi adventure, with some interesting ideas thrown in. Lots of up to date ideas which is impressive considering when it was written. Highly recommended.
I found it a very entertaining, fluently written sci-fi adventure, with some interesting ideas thrown in. Lots of up to date ideas which is impressive considering when it was written. Highly recommended.
★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆
bakhtyari mehdi
An investigation of future biases and "racism" in the far distant future. Not a bad prediction considering when the book was written. The characters were well thought out but very melodramatic at times. Clues were sprinkled around the entire story with a satisfying Law and Order twist in the end. Not my favorite Asimov, but still enjoyable.
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clint
A compact story with a good storyline. I am an occasional Sci-fi reader and this is one of the best stories that dont require you to read 6-8 books in a series(which usually peter out before you get to the end). I understand that this is part of a series, but is also a good stand alone.
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
miquela
I am a long time Asimov fan and i totally loved reading the entire Robot series by my favortie author. So that being said, my rating on this is not reflective of the story or author in any way. I have tried 3 times now to listen to this beautifully packaged masterpiece and have still not been able to get past half of the first chapter...All because of the horrible narrative job of William Dufris!!!
He totally lacks the talent to be able to deliver this exciting novel in the way it was written. I dont think i've ever heard a reading this bad! So again, great Author, great Novel, great series, and even packaging. Terribly done narration!
Some examples of great narration that i've heard for audiobooks are "The Talisman" by Stephen King and the "Icewind Dale Trilogy" by RA Salvatore. Great talents!!
This one....noooo!
He totally lacks the talent to be able to deliver this exciting novel in the way it was written. I dont think i've ever heard a reading this bad! So again, great Author, great Novel, great series, and even packaging. Terribly done narration!
Some examples of great narration that i've heard for audiobooks are "The Talisman" by Stephen King and the "Icewind Dale Trilogy" by RA Salvatore. Great talents!!
This one....noooo!
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