War of Honor (Honor Harrington Book 10)
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shawnette
I rated this book a 3 because it is by David Weber and it is good writing. He has done a good job of creating a bridge book. Periodically, in this series, he needs to sit back and set the stage for continuing the series, and that is what he does in this novel, creates a bridge. 868 pages, and the first fleet actions occur with 100 pages to go. There is some action prior to that, but in most cases, they are reports of actions rather than "actually living" the action (the crowning battle between the Epps and Hellbarde) that we have seen in earlier novels.
I gave it a 3 because I was disappointed with this book. Too much cerebral, not enough action. And to be honest, I thought that some of his plot lines ended a little too glibly. And I wanted the pyrotechnics that had been promised at the end of the last book - Queen Elizabeth vs. the new Prime Minister - to be there. Instead, they just kind of faded away (suicide, disappearance, lost in an election), never a confrontation. The only confrontation was handled very sedately.
I look forward to the next incarnation of Honor Harrington. It is without a doubt the best long-running series in Science Fiction.
I gave it a 3 because I was disappointed with this book. Too much cerebral, not enough action. And to be honest, I thought that some of his plot lines ended a little too glibly. And I wanted the pyrotechnics that had been promised at the end of the last book - Queen Elizabeth vs. the new Prime Minister - to be there. Instead, they just kind of faded away (suicide, disappearance, lost in an election), never a confrontation. The only confrontation was handled very sedately.
I look forward to the next incarnation of Honor Harrington. It is without a doubt the best long-running series in Science Fiction.
★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆
nadeem
A very weak book. After the first 200 pages I started skimming over the dull political writing. Since Weber is writing the political stuff for all sides its predictable and not at all interesting. Certainly a little bit is needed to know why the war starts up again, but not 80% of the book. Even the parts with Honor in them are getting to be somewhat questionable.
At 300 pages the book could have kept a better pace and been worth reading every page, not the 860 pages of junk we got. Even the space battles were glossed over in favor of politics.
Finally, if Weber's going to get Honor into a romance with White Haven he needs to have someone else write those paragraphs. It's about as bad as the romance stuff in attack of the clones, totally unrealistic and very convient how he has Samantha 'adopt' White Haven and then a final bonding with Honor and White Haven as the first Human-Human mind link. Give me a break. Kill White Haven off in some dramatic fashion and get Honor a real boyfriend, or does Weber plan on marrying the them on Grayson so White Haven can have two wives.
Get an editor, get a real romance, get rid of the excessive political talk, and get back to focusing on Honor the way the first few books did. Keep it under 500 pages and no more transitional books. People said the last one was a transitional book as well, and we're still in transit.
At 300 pages the book could have kept a better pace and been worth reading every page, not the 860 pages of junk we got. Even the space battles were glossed over in favor of politics.
Finally, if Weber's going to get Honor into a romance with White Haven he needs to have someone else write those paragraphs. It's about as bad as the romance stuff in attack of the clones, totally unrealistic and very convient how he has Samantha 'adopt' White Haven and then a final bonding with Honor and White Haven as the first Human-Human mind link. Give me a break. Kill White Haven off in some dramatic fashion and get Honor a real boyfriend, or does Weber plan on marrying the them on Grayson so White Haven can have two wives.
Get an editor, get a real romance, get rid of the excessive political talk, and get back to focusing on Honor the way the first few books did. Keep it under 500 pages and no more transitional books. People said the last one was a transitional book as well, and we're still in transit.
Echoes of Honor (Honor Harrington Book 8) :: Field of Dishonor (Honor Harrington Book 4) :: A Call to Duty (Manticore Ascendant series Book 1) :: Space Carrier Avalon (Castle Federation Book 1) :: Into the Dark (Alexis Carew Book 1)
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
mary bartek
I have enjoyed much of the Honor Harrington series. Clearly, his first four books are the best, but the others have had their gripping moments. Not this book. It is a bore from end to end.
Some random thoughts:
The Honor worship has gotten utterly out of hand. How many more pages must be lavished on the central character that has had no interesting or original thoughts in 3000 pages?
There exists not a single interesting character in the Manticoran Alliance. Not a single person that I would want to talk to or meet.
Only the Peeps have anything left to say. Tom Theisman, Eloise Pritchard, and Shannon Foraker at least have some depth, some pathos, and some guts. But these character are given only a fraction of the novel to develop.
There is very little actual action, very little plot development, and the characters stagnate.
All in all, it reads like some mediocre DM in a Dungeons and Dragons game distributing the booty of the quest.
The vast majority of the book is taken up with political maneuvering. Every character that does not fundamentally agree with Weber's politics is an idiot, a coward, and is fundamentally acting in bad faith. On the other hand, everyone who agrees with Weber's politics is obviously correct, noble, brilliant, and incorruptible. (...)
Since these buffoons are in power, we essentially read 800 pages of stupid people trying to spin incompetence that would make the GOP look good.
Basically, we get to watch simpletons plot in meetings for roughy...750 pages. Very exciting.
Mr. Weber, political intrigue is like chess, only really interesting when masters go at it. Otherwise, you just get frustrated and bored.
Which is precisely what happened here.
Some random thoughts:
The Honor worship has gotten utterly out of hand. How many more pages must be lavished on the central character that has had no interesting or original thoughts in 3000 pages?
There exists not a single interesting character in the Manticoran Alliance. Not a single person that I would want to talk to or meet.
Only the Peeps have anything left to say. Tom Theisman, Eloise Pritchard, and Shannon Foraker at least have some depth, some pathos, and some guts. But these character are given only a fraction of the novel to develop.
There is very little actual action, very little plot development, and the characters stagnate.
All in all, it reads like some mediocre DM in a Dungeons and Dragons game distributing the booty of the quest.
The vast majority of the book is taken up with political maneuvering. Every character that does not fundamentally agree with Weber's politics is an idiot, a coward, and is fundamentally acting in bad faith. On the other hand, everyone who agrees with Weber's politics is obviously correct, noble, brilliant, and incorruptible. (...)
Since these buffoons are in power, we essentially read 800 pages of stupid people trying to spin incompetence that would make the GOP look good.
Basically, we get to watch simpletons plot in meetings for roughy...750 pages. Very exciting.
Mr. Weber, political intrigue is like chess, only really interesting when masters go at it. Otherwise, you just get frustrated and bored.
Which is precisely what happened here.
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
t r a c y
I really enjoyed reading the first nine books of this series. They were a great mix of action, character development, and insight into the "enemy's way of thinking".
This book is different. It would be great if it was labeled as "political intrigue".
As a space opera, it is about 350 pages too long.
Please please please David, don't go the route of Jordan and Goodkind. Your fans can get verbose political commentary elsewhere, we don't want it in the Honorverse.
This book is different. It would be great if it was labeled as "political intrigue".
As a space opera, it is about 350 pages too long.
Please please please David, don't go the route of Jordan and Goodkind. Your fans can get verbose political commentary elsewhere, we don't want it in the Honorverse.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
littlekidd
"War of Honor" is the story of dirty & interest-riddled political huslers attempting to undermine everything in there own state just to stay in power. This isn't a new concept in human history. In fact, this story reminded of the political situation in the middle-easy during the late '60 and early '70. In 1967 Israel was attacked by no less than 3 arab countries bent upon it's destruction. Yet Israel managed to beat the odds and the arabs until they screamed "Uncle". Yet no peace treaty was forged - Only a cease-fire. When Egyptian president Natzer died, his successor knew he couldn't keep his position unless he improved his economy - and that ment talking peace to the Israelis. But they ignored his discreet overtures and in '73 he had enough and launched an attack along with Syria to get his territory back.
This is basically what happens in this book: High Ridge doesn't want to formalize the peace, His military adviser are certain that they have the technological superiority, their Intelligence "experts" ignore all unsubstatiated rumors from all scorces other than their own and then pay the price for their arrogence. The only bright spots are Honor and Hamish who have enough foresight to convince the alienated Graysons that they need their help and they get it.
Structurally the final action scenes play just like in "Echoes of Honor". Manticore loses many small engagements, one really big one with small scale characters who are bound to show up sometime in the future, they stalemate in one fight, and totally win in a semi-important fight involving Honor. I must admit that this story starts out quite slowly and I found myself dragging through some less than stellar chapters. But Weber manages to build the growing suspence of interstellar diplomacy slowly breaking down quite well until it all goes up in a really big, satisfying boom in the end.
From a personal point of view, Honor is finally forced to face up to her feeling towards Hamish and we finally get to meet his wife, Emily. The conclusion of her dilemma is both surprising and satisfying as Honor suddenly establishes an empathic link of her own with Hamish. And to cap matters off, Emily realizes that getting between the two of them is being selfish despite her own feelings (thanks to Samantha's sound advice). This is the future after all and if Beowulf can live with strange familial structures, so can we!
This is basically what happens in this book: High Ridge doesn't want to formalize the peace, His military adviser are certain that they have the technological superiority, their Intelligence "experts" ignore all unsubstatiated rumors from all scorces other than their own and then pay the price for their arrogence. The only bright spots are Honor and Hamish who have enough foresight to convince the alienated Graysons that they need their help and they get it.
Structurally the final action scenes play just like in "Echoes of Honor". Manticore loses many small engagements, one really big one with small scale characters who are bound to show up sometime in the future, they stalemate in one fight, and totally win in a semi-important fight involving Honor. I must admit that this story starts out quite slowly and I found myself dragging through some less than stellar chapters. But Weber manages to build the growing suspence of interstellar diplomacy slowly breaking down quite well until it all goes up in a really big, satisfying boom in the end.
From a personal point of view, Honor is finally forced to face up to her feeling towards Hamish and we finally get to meet his wife, Emily. The conclusion of her dilemma is both surprising and satisfying as Honor suddenly establishes an empathic link of her own with Hamish. And to cap matters off, Emily realizes that getting between the two of them is being selfish despite her own feelings (thanks to Samantha's sound advice). This is the future after all and if Beowulf can live with strange familial structures, so can we!
★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆
zane
This is really the first abridged audiobook I've listened to. I did the previous 9 in the series in unabridged audiobook, but the abridged copy was what the library had.
As far as I can tell, they abridged it by throwing the pages in the air and picking up 10% of them, putting them back in order and reading them.
I went out to Baen and bought the eBook copy for my Sony reader, and I'm reading it there. I expect that the book is as good as the rest of the series, but I can't tell from the abridged audiobook version.
I expect that the book itself is 5 stars, but this version is 1 because I can't give zero.
As far as I can tell, they abridged it by throwing the pages in the air and picking up 10% of them, putting them back in order and reading them.
I went out to Baen and bought the eBook copy for my Sony reader, and I'm reading it there. I expect that the book is as good as the rest of the series, but I can't tell from the abridged audiobook version.
I expect that the book itself is 5 stars, but this version is 1 because I can't give zero.
★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆
helen mckenna
Wow, was I surprised! This is the first Honor Harrington book I have read or, better to say, attempted to read. Skipped hundreds of pages of blather and missed nothing. The author seems to have a knack for avoiding the action part of space opera. Is this really the same person that wrote the Prince Roger series?! At 7.99, it cost about a penny a page and that clearly was overpricing it. I would ask that in the future the author pay me to read his ramblings rather than vice versa.
★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆
juli burgett
This book is written very well, if a bit ponderous at times. As stated in the many previous reviews, it is quite dense reading and one cannot just speed read through it all and catch everything. The characters are much more developed in this and I like the mulitple perspectives and points of view. It is however, almost too heavy in the politicing, I spent the first 700 or so pages feeling and overwhelming tension that was not 'abated or released' until the last portion of the book, and then with the way the very last chapter was ended I wanted to scream! Be warned, you will feel anxious, tense and downright irritated till the end, and just when you think you can relax, that last little bit leaves you hanging just enough that it seems like the next 2 years will be an eternity before you are allowed to witness the resolution...
I noticed that the parts dealing with Honor and Earl White Haven seem to have a broad appeal to female readers and many of us felt that it was about damn time Honor finally came accross as a human being that feels love in other than a fraternal sense after so long since Paul's death. The amount of time that had elapsed since that event almost reached absurd levels IMHO and I'm glad that a bit of realism was finally added.
Overall this book cannot be read and truly understood without having read the rest of the series first, and it most definately sets the stage for quite an engaging story.
I noticed that the parts dealing with Honor and Earl White Haven seem to have a broad appeal to female readers and many of us felt that it was about damn time Honor finally came accross as a human being that feels love in other than a fraternal sense after so long since Paul's death. The amount of time that had elapsed since that event almost reached absurd levels IMHO and I'm glad that a bit of realism was finally added.
Overall this book cannot be read and truly understood without having read the rest of the series first, and it most definately sets the stage for quite an engaging story.
★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆
lilith
While I throughly enjoy the Honorverse, this book suffers greatly from being overly busy. Weber has too many seperate plot threads going at the same time, and each of them suffers from lack of attention. Elemination fo some of the secondary plots and expanding the main plots more fully would have made the book a lot more readable. Also, his last several books have suffered an ongoing encroachment of politics, to the detriment of the space opera portion of his stories. Perhaps he should revisit the earlier Honor Harrington books and attempt to recapture that missing spark.
★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆
sara mutchler
I wanted to review War of Honor just to make sure there are more 1-star ratings than 5-star.What was a tendency has become a very bad habit. No action is taken without an essay. No plot is plotted without excruciating discourse. Where is the Editor? This could have been a good short book. D.W. has to know what 60% of his readers think of this growing habit of his and I have to respect his determination to press on anyway, not pandering to that shallow majority of readers who want conciseness, lucidity, and action.
★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆
anna jolley
I am a newcomer to the Harrington series and have loved it so far.
I am legally blind, so I've listened to all of the books thus far. I do not remember who the narrator for the first 9 books were, but she was excellent. While she was not a voice actor, she was easy to listen to and she got all of the acronymns correct. I wish I could say that Barbara Rosenthahl was as good, but I cannot. In fact, she really annoys me to no end. Her over-the-top voices seem purely based on the character's perceived ethnicity (LaFollette = Irish, Jiscar = French, Whitehaven = English...but Honor Harrington has an American accent)???
Furthermore, her reading style does leave a lot to be desired. How do I pout this without groasing people out. Her "mouth noises" are just plain nasty. You can hear her swallow. At times, it sounds like she has too much saliva in her mouth. I know this sounds extremely anal, but it really distracts from the reading.
As for the story, it is what I have come to expect from David Weber. Lots of political background, but not enough space battles. This is what got me hooked to begin with.
All in all, its not a great book...but I'm going to muttle through it.
I am legally blind, so I've listened to all of the books thus far. I do not remember who the narrator for the first 9 books were, but she was excellent. While she was not a voice actor, she was easy to listen to and she got all of the acronymns correct. I wish I could say that Barbara Rosenthahl was as good, but I cannot. In fact, she really annoys me to no end. Her over-the-top voices seem purely based on the character's perceived ethnicity (LaFollette = Irish, Jiscar = French, Whitehaven = English...but Honor Harrington has an American accent)???
Furthermore, her reading style does leave a lot to be desired. How do I pout this without groasing people out. Her "mouth noises" are just plain nasty. You can hear her swallow. At times, it sounds like she has too much saliva in her mouth. I know this sounds extremely anal, but it really distracts from the reading.
As for the story, it is what I have come to expect from David Weber. Lots of political background, but not enough space battles. This is what got me hooked to begin with.
All in all, its not a great book...but I'm going to muttle through it.
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
laryssa
Up until now I've really liked the Honor Harrington series. However, this book doesn't live up to what has gone before. For starters, the book needs about 200 pages worth of editing. This is most obvious in the frequent longwinded reminders that Admiral Soandso has hated Lord Whatshisname since way back. However there are lots of other examples. But the real problem is that Honor is no longer center stage. Also, the characters and background story are becoming shallow and don't make much sense any more. I never minded the political maneuvering in the previous books because they provided background and advanced the story, but this is no longer the case. It is one thing for Lord Pavel Young to be a rich, spoiled, and politically powerful sociopath in the early books. It is something else for everyone who disagrees with Honor politically to be either cowardly, self-serving, or a fool. It is one thing for the revolutionary and expansionist People's Republic of Haven to need to be defeated in war (enter Honor, stage left). It is another thing, once the government of the People's Republic has been overthrown from within, to believe the entire leadership of the new government could be fooled by a few forged documents into restarting the war, especially when we've been led to believe they want peace and are not complete morons. Honor's part in this book, which involves the Andermanis, the Silesians, and eventually the Havenites, is almost an afterthought. In the context developed in previous books, it would have made a lot more sense for the Manties and Havenites to come to terms. Then, with the big war over and the Navy budget cut back drastically, the story could have focused on Honor and the Andermani/Silesian question. What with piracy, slavery, territorial disputes, a new wormhole junction, and more, there was plenty of opportunity. This book is a disappointment, but I won't give up on Honor yet...and even if the party's over it was a pretty good party while it lasted.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
skim
The latest addition to the Honor Harrington series is a bit slow because of the inherent nature of trying to build tensions between Haven and Manticore. It took three books for open war to break out between these two powers.
The biggest weakness I see in this book is that I would have liked for the family aspects of Honor Harrington's life to have been developed. Also the Queen also plays a marginal role to the very end. Although the internal tensions in the Government are worked well. It would have been nice to have Cabinet sessions with the Queen in which they had to face the wrath of a Queen that has made its deep displeasure with the High Ridge Government.
All in all it was a great book. It worked the internal political interactions in Haven and Manticore and added a sense of cloak and dagger an excellent grasp of how the foreign (or in this case interstellar) policy of a state is deeply affected by its domestic political needs. David Weber does an excellent job explaining the way how domestic and foreign policy work.
You can't only feel but feel sorry for everyone in this book. Even the bad guys of the piece, which ironically is the government of the good guys in the previous nine, are heading inexorably to disaster. You almost feel as if you were watching an accident.
It was a good book. Laughed a lot even with the sense of inevitable doom that this book engenders.
The biggest weakness I see in this book is that I would have liked for the family aspects of Honor Harrington's life to have been developed. Also the Queen also plays a marginal role to the very end. Although the internal tensions in the Government are worked well. It would have been nice to have Cabinet sessions with the Queen in which they had to face the wrath of a Queen that has made its deep displeasure with the High Ridge Government.
All in all it was a great book. It worked the internal political interactions in Haven and Manticore and added a sense of cloak and dagger an excellent grasp of how the foreign (or in this case interstellar) policy of a state is deeply affected by its domestic political needs. David Weber does an excellent job explaining the way how domestic and foreign policy work.
You can't only feel but feel sorry for everyone in this book. Even the bad guys of the piece, which ironically is the government of the good guys in the previous nine, are heading inexorably to disaster. You almost feel as if you were watching an accident.
It was a good book. Laughed a lot even with the sense of inevitable doom that this book engenders.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
jl smither
Nope. This book i liked a great deal more than one or two others in the series. This book balanced the tech and the politics very well. Many of the things long predicted by various online fans came in to being but the book was hardly predictable. For a book approaching ponderous in size, it kept the pace moving along pretty well and while there were only a two or three characters that emerged as new names in this one we did get to see quite a few old friends.
★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆
donnalee
This is an interesting twist in the Honor Harrington series. Weber is building up to a climax in the next book. War of Honor is a book more of politics and relationships. WoH developes the relationships and creates a love triangle, and of course, the relationship between the nations. Be wary, the person who finds politics boring, will most likely find the book boring. This book is merely a stepping stone into what will be the new Honor.
If you are looking for combat action, look somewhere else. I happen to enjoy combat, and sadly there is not much of that in this book. Whatever little there is, Weber sums up in a paragraph. This book is far from bad, it's just not an exciting read, diehard Honor fans will love (like me) and new readers of Honor will be attraced to the bind in disk.
The Honorverse disk is the best thing that Baen could ever do. Every Honor book is on the disk. This is a great plus to new fans, and to old ones. Included is music by Echo's Children, a great filk group. (For more information about filk, go to filk.com)
I give this book a 3 out of 5 because it lacks action, and is devoted entirely to stetting up the following books.
If you are looking for combat action, look somewhere else. I happen to enjoy combat, and sadly there is not much of that in this book. Whatever little there is, Weber sums up in a paragraph. This book is far from bad, it's just not an exciting read, diehard Honor fans will love (like me) and new readers of Honor will be attraced to the bind in disk.
The Honorverse disk is the best thing that Baen could ever do. Every Honor book is on the disk. This is a great plus to new fans, and to old ones. Included is music by Echo's Children, a great filk group. (For more information about filk, go to filk.com)
I give this book a 3 out of 5 because it lacks action, and is devoted entirely to stetting up the following books.
★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆
iva cikojevic
The quality of the read suffers hugegly from an apparent inability of the publisher to speak harshly to a hugely talented author.
I read the preview online sections of the PRIOR book while flying to England and was thrilled at the talent succintly and marvelously expressed. When I returned home and purchased tbe book, I was devastated. P>This book could have been pared to two quality chapters. What's wrong. Perhaps readers have to rate it, like it is. The book was not good enough to be considered second rate.
Characters were extraneous and irrelevent. Huges sections were not remotely pertinent to any interesting thread. Themes were repeated without quality development. P>There were great themes here interspersed widely with drivel.Jodanesque in the extreme. Presumably we must face the ultimate slowdown of development because we will purchase. The book is set in a big universe and we have not yet heard from each and every sentient being in the universe with their own meaninless and redundent thread.
This book has potential of maximum stars and reaches one. We have a great respect for this author's talent, but it is not reached in this book. Sad but true.
Lets hope this beating is not necessary again.
I read the preview online sections of the PRIOR book while flying to England and was thrilled at the talent succintly and marvelously expressed. When I returned home and purchased tbe book, I was devastated. P>This book could have been pared to two quality chapters. What's wrong. Perhaps readers have to rate it, like it is. The book was not good enough to be considered second rate.
Characters were extraneous and irrelevent. Huges sections were not remotely pertinent to any interesting thread. Themes were repeated without quality development. P>There were great themes here interspersed widely with drivel.Jodanesque in the extreme. Presumably we must face the ultimate slowdown of development because we will purchase. The book is set in a big universe and we have not yet heard from each and every sentient being in the universe with their own meaninless and redundent thread.
This book has potential of maximum stars and reaches one. We have a great respect for this author's talent, but it is not reached in this book. Sad but true.
Lets hope this beating is not necessary again.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
skye murphy
The Star Kingdom of Manticore and the Republic of Haven (formally known as "the Peeps") were still under a cease-fire. Technically, they were still at war since neither side had agreed on terms or signed a treaty.
Baron High Ridge and his allies wanted to reduce the influence of (Duchess) Honor Harrington and (Earl) Hamish White Haven to the public. Stefan Young held much hatred toward the woman who had killed his older brother, Pavel. His wife, Georgia, was an astute tactician and strategist. With her help, Stefan introduced a smear campaign to High Ridge that would not only reduce the influence of Honor and Hamish, but also harm the two emotionally.
Here I skip ahead. I want to give no spoilers.
Honor accepted a commission to the Sidemore Station in the Silesian territory. Pirates had always been a problem and slave trading had begun to pick up. The Andermani Empire interferes often. However, it was the Republic causing the major trouble. Operation Bolthole was nearing completion. The Republic had advanced greatly in many areas. They now had LACs that used "the Triple Ripple" as a way around the technical competence of the Star Kingdom. While High Ridge had been making cuts, retiring important leaders, and downsizing ships and personnel, the Republic had been secretly building CLACs, upgrading their technology, and making war plans.
Add a newly discovered seventh terminus to the Junction and negotiations seem to become worse. Tempers run high and Honor was in the center of everything, as usual.
Author David Weber spends more time on Honor Harrington and her personal life this time around. Politics and war strategies are just as strong as ever, however, I feel as though I understand Honor just a little better. Of course Nimitz and Samantha are there. In fact, Weber tossed in a surprise or two pertaining to them as well. Nimitz seems to have more of a personality this time around too.
BRAVO, David Weber! A job WELL DONE! I look forward to the next!
Reviewed by Detra Fitch.
Baron High Ridge and his allies wanted to reduce the influence of (Duchess) Honor Harrington and (Earl) Hamish White Haven to the public. Stefan Young held much hatred toward the woman who had killed his older brother, Pavel. His wife, Georgia, was an astute tactician and strategist. With her help, Stefan introduced a smear campaign to High Ridge that would not only reduce the influence of Honor and Hamish, but also harm the two emotionally.
Here I skip ahead. I want to give no spoilers.
Honor accepted a commission to the Sidemore Station in the Silesian territory. Pirates had always been a problem and slave trading had begun to pick up. The Andermani Empire interferes often. However, it was the Republic causing the major trouble. Operation Bolthole was nearing completion. The Republic had advanced greatly in many areas. They now had LACs that used "the Triple Ripple" as a way around the technical competence of the Star Kingdom. While High Ridge had been making cuts, retiring important leaders, and downsizing ships and personnel, the Republic had been secretly building CLACs, upgrading their technology, and making war plans.
Add a newly discovered seventh terminus to the Junction and negotiations seem to become worse. Tempers run high and Honor was in the center of everything, as usual.
Author David Weber spends more time on Honor Harrington and her personal life this time around. Politics and war strategies are just as strong as ever, however, I feel as though I understand Honor just a little better. Of course Nimitz and Samantha are there. In fact, Weber tossed in a surprise or two pertaining to them as well. Nimitz seems to have more of a personality this time around too.
BRAVO, David Weber! A job WELL DONE! I look forward to the next!
Reviewed by Detra Fitch.
★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆
kevin grote
Sir David, Duke of Weber, Ruler of Aristocracy in SF is in love with royalty it seems. This behemoth of a book has about 300 pages more than it needs to be a great story. He loves to expound on (his) political views. Not that I have a problem with a bit of that but he goes on and on. The aristocracy really gets the royal treatment. Read drags on and on. If he just cut out all the titles and excess names we would have saved 100 pages. That said, if you wade thru all the (pay per word)?? verbiage there is a good story here. Too bad it is hidden in so much verbal chaff.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
laura leone
Weber at his best: Well-developed characters, plot twists and surprises with his unique omniscient view of characters both "good guys" and "bas guys" who believe sincerely in their various causes and will use any means to further those causes.
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
jen gould
Just who wrote this book? Unfortunately, it appears to be the David Weber who wrote the equally disappointing Ashes of Victory and not the author of the previous Honor Harrington volumes (or his other novels for that matter, all of which I thoroughly enjoyed). As with Ashes, virtually the entire book is nothing but characters sitting around a table talking about what has happened and speaking in excruciatingly bad dialogue. That is, when Mr. Weber does not digress for pages of mind numbing exposition that appears lifted from some future high school history text--and a dully written one at that.
While I dearly miss the naval setting that attracted me to this series initially, I submit that a novel about these political events could be fascinating. Action stories or exploding space ships are not the only subjects that can hold my interest. But not when written in the clunky dialogue of Mr. Weber. While it was serviceable to move along a swiftly paced naval story, 800 pages of it with almost no dramatic action or tension of any kind is a narcoleptic of the first order.
While I dearly miss the naval setting that attracted me to this series initially, I submit that a novel about these political events could be fascinating. Action stories or exploding space ships are not the only subjects that can hold my interest. But not when written in the clunky dialogue of Mr. Weber. While it was serviceable to move along a swiftly paced naval story, 800 pages of it with almost no dramatic action or tension of any kind is a narcoleptic of the first order.
★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆
dadda
I enjoyed reading this book and the series as a whole, so I picked up an audiobook copy of it to listen to in the car during the commute. I was, in a word, disappointed.
Barbara Rosenblat's reading is flat, and her intonations and inflections are unnatural and stilted. I find it hard to listen to, as her artistic take on the conversations and her impersonations of military personnel are completely off and unrealistic. Her mispronunciations of simple words sometimes makes it hard to understand what's going on, and her overall characterization is low, in that it is very hard to tell which character is speaking at any time. All in all, I get the feeling she ignored the actual content and militaristic theme of the book in lieu of a very generic, pulp reading.
Barbara Rosenblat's reading is flat, and her intonations and inflections are unnatural and stilted. I find it hard to listen to, as her artistic take on the conversations and her impersonations of military personnel are completely off and unrealistic. Her mispronunciations of simple words sometimes makes it hard to understand what's going on, and her overall characterization is low, in that it is very hard to tell which character is speaking at any time. All in all, I get the feeling she ignored the actual content and militaristic theme of the book in lieu of a very generic, pulp reading.
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
dana young
After ten books, the Honor Harrington series seems to have run out of steam. Weber takes 864 pages to move the plot forward about a short stories worth. All the characters spend their time telling each other everthing that has gone before, and it's not until the last 100 pages or so that anything of substance actually happens! I've enjoyed a lot of Weber's other books, but this one is just one too many for this heroine.
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
shiraz
In fact, that's just how I read it - skipping over the interminable talk, talk, talk. It's been a while since I've read On Basilisk Station but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have read any more Honor books if it had been this bad. I'm hooked into Weber's world creation, tho, so am stuck. Perhaps if Baen re-hired the editor they so obviously fired 5 years ago we could get at least one more decent Honor book out of Weber!
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
sandra spada
Well done. Loved this one. Im usually the "intellectual type who likes exploding ships" but i think the fact Haven blew up a Manti fleet or 6 (not really sure how many, was awsom. you see i rooted for the bad guys most of the time cause in my opinion they fought for their nation, even when it was wrong, with what ever they had. Unlike alot of Manti officers who were stuck up rich nobles, who bought their way into the military, who im glad alot of them died i think the peeps had the better military as alot of their people vame in from the lower ranks of life and many of them were realist who had no position to defende and even knowing failure was death they made the better decisions when to fight and retreat while many Mantis officers got many people killed just to look uncowardly. GO Grayson who had very few incompetant officers. The Erwohan made the right choice. :-). my two favorite people are Horace Harkness and thomas Theisman.
now it looks like that field has changed and there will be a new enemy in this war (but it looks like their technology is almost as far back as the Havanites at the end of the 1st SKM and PRH war. not sure though if they will really join the war.
Loved this one and hope i love the newest one im buying today after work :-).
now it looks like that field has changed and there will be a new enemy in this war (but it looks like their technology is almost as far back as the Havanites at the end of the 1st SKM and PRH war. not sure though if they will really join the war.
Loved this one and hope i love the newest one im buying today after work :-).
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
abby wynne
I loved this book, I couldn't put it down and I hated to come to the end of it. It's true that there is a lot more talking in this one than in previous "Honorverse" novels but Weber keeps up the pace. The entire storyline is gripping and good to the last sentence and there are excellent action scenes. The conversations between Honor and her,um, friend, Hamish Alexander, are interesting and dynamic as always. David Weber is terrific at opening up new horizons for his characters and I am eagerly awaiting his next novel.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
dawn johnson
Yep, our girl is BAAAACK! And the bad taste in your mouth from the fall of the Cromarty Government was warranted -- it turns out to be as bad as we imagined. Honor contends with politics on both a personal and military level, gets involved in conflicts with both Andermani and Peep forces, Manticore also tweaks the Sollies (albeit unintentionally) for future books.
This is big (800+ pages), complex (Maniticore good guys, Manitcore bad guys, Peeps of all kinds, Sidemore, Grayson) and forboding novel. Most of the novel feels like the Sword of Damocles hanging overhead.
The only downside is that since this novel covers a *lot* of events setting up the next 4-5 books, you don't get as much exposure to characters such as Benjamin, Elzabeth, Michelle Henke, etc.
Still, it may be the best one yet, if only because of how well all the plot advance toward a grim set of confrontations...
This is big (800+ pages), complex (Maniticore good guys, Manitcore bad guys, Peeps of all kinds, Sidemore, Grayson) and forboding novel. Most of the novel feels like the Sword of Damocles hanging overhead.
The only downside is that since this novel covers a *lot* of events setting up the next 4-5 books, you don't get as much exposure to characters such as Benjamin, Elzabeth, Michelle Henke, etc.
Still, it may be the best one yet, if only because of how well all the plot advance toward a grim set of confrontations...
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
daniel mcgregor
Unlike the rest of the Honor Harrington series, War of Honor is decidedly lacking in action. Much time is spent filling in background stories, and developing the political situation into one that will allow continuation of the story in future books. What action there is comes late in the book and lacks much of the detail characteristic of Weber's previous Honor Harrington novels.
One irritating point about the development of the political situation is the consistent lack of due diligence in montioring communications by leaders on both sides of the Manticoran / Havenite negotiations. I understand that David Weber needed to contrive some way setting up the conflict for future books, but the idea that NO ONE would have noticed blatant tampering streches reality a litte thin. As a result, the complex characters that David Weber spends so much time developing do not "feel" as real as they otherwise would have.
One irritating point about the development of the political situation is the consistent lack of due diligence in montioring communications by leaders on both sides of the Manticoran / Havenite negotiations. I understand that David Weber needed to contrive some way setting up the conflict for future books, but the idea that NO ONE would have noticed blatant tampering streches reality a litte thin. As a result, the complex characters that David Weber spends so much time developing do not "feel" as real as they otherwise would have.
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
shana
I've followed this series from the beginning and this book is the one I least like. Nothing happens, with even the ending being disappointing - it's basically just a quick summary rather than the usual exciting finale. In 800 pages, the book is all didactic political talk and explanation. And those "bad guys" who get their due justice receive it all offscreen. It was such a disappointment, I wouldn't recommend the cliffsnotes for this book- they'd be boring too. And that's too bad, as the series held up well for 8 books.
★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆
layne mcinelly
Some of the other Honor books have been page-turners, all of the other ones I've read have been entertaining. This one is just boring. The first 80 pages consist of endless explanations of the politics of the various star nations and - I'm not kidding - and interminable explanation of the game of baseball. I don't know what happened after that. I put the book down and have no intention of picking it up again. Mr. Weber, get an editor.
★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆
garrick thompson
And yet, 3 stars.
First, my hardcover version came with a cd-rom of the full series, plus many other stories I'd long lost from my library.
And second - the foundation for the continuation of the series. This is unavoidably political.
HOWEVER -
Is there no editor willing to tell Mr. Webber that it's time to shut up and write some action? I can't think of a single dramatic high-point - and that's including the political tensions.
The most important aspect from the previous book that had intensely political implications - the integration of treecats into Alliance culture - was simply ignored. And think of HOW much fun it would have been for Queen Elizabeth to ennoble some treecats and put them in the Lords!
THAT would have put the cat among the pigeons!
But I have hope.
First, my hardcover version came with a cd-rom of the full series, plus many other stories I'd long lost from my library.
And second - the foundation for the continuation of the series. This is unavoidably political.
HOWEVER -
Is there no editor willing to tell Mr. Webber that it's time to shut up and write some action? I can't think of a single dramatic high-point - and that's including the political tensions.
The most important aspect from the previous book that had intensely political implications - the integration of treecats into Alliance culture - was simply ignored. And think of HOW much fun it would have been for Queen Elizabeth to ennoble some treecats and put them in the Lords!
THAT would have put the cat among the pigeons!
But I have hope.
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
rob booker
I love the Honor Harrington series and have thoroughly enjoyed most of Mr. Weber's titles. This one was an exception...
400-600 pages of political manuevering was just too much for me. I don't demand epic space battles, but darn it, stop talking and do something! Some people are saying that we needed this to lay the groundwork for the future of the series, but I found it all obvious and more than a bit redundant. I think he could have accomplished the same thing in less than 200 pages if he tried.
At the same time, it is a must have for any true Harringtion fan. If you dont read it, you will be lost by his next book, I am sure.
And finally, if you get the hardcover, the Honorverse CD (which is packaged with the book) is a wonderful value. Lots of books (some still in hardcover) for free. I particularly like John Ringo's series and David Drake's / Eric Flint's collaboration under the heading "Friends of Honor".
Concluding, a bit slow, and less engaging than the rest of the series, but still a good value if you are addicted to Honor and especially if you have a computer and are willing to read on the screen.
400-600 pages of political manuevering was just too much for me. I don't demand epic space battles, but darn it, stop talking and do something! Some people are saying that we needed this to lay the groundwork for the future of the series, but I found it all obvious and more than a bit redundant. I think he could have accomplished the same thing in less than 200 pages if he tried.
At the same time, it is a must have for any true Harringtion fan. If you dont read it, you will be lost by his next book, I am sure.
And finally, if you get the hardcover, the Honorverse CD (which is packaged with the book) is a wonderful value. Lots of books (some still in hardcover) for free. I particularly like John Ringo's series and David Drake's / Eric Flint's collaboration under the heading "Friends of Honor".
Concluding, a bit slow, and less engaging than the rest of the series, but still a good value if you are addicted to Honor and especially if you have a computer and are willing to read on the screen.
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
kevin k
I appreciate the fact that Weber was interested in exploring Manticoran and Havenite politics in great depth. The fact that he likes going this deep with his background is one of his strengths as a writer. However, in the process he's losing sight of other writerly virtues, such as concision. This is an amazingly bloated book. There is much repetition and throughout the book its characters are made to wade through molasses-thick, endless and painfully obvious discussions of what is going on. Weber could have accomplished the same intricate and interesting setup in half the space. Because of its unnecessary length, the book became a drudge to read. Not the kind of exciting tale I expected from Weber.
★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆
maria anastasia
What a ripoff. This book is hands-down the biggest bait-and-switch I've ever read. It's called War of Honor. Guess how much war we get? In an 850 page book, maybe 50 pages, and I'm being generous. It's the biggest ripoff since Robot Wars, a Silvermoon Production movie that had no robots and no wars.
It's very slow moving and talky. I actually know what he was trying to accomplish, well one of two things actually. He wanted to show the entire setup to a big war starting off, both sides, all the political maneuvering etc. He did an okay job of this. The problem is, it's boring as hell. I don't mind some political intrigue, character building stuff or whatever. But he's slathering it on because he wants to show every little thing. There are many ways he could have compressed the same info down without losing anything, but I can tell he didn't want to do that. He wanted to show every little thing because he's DAVID WEBER and he's damn well earned it after 7 books.
Anyway, on to the bait-and-switch. This was the other purpose of the book, other than lining the author's pockets. Again, what gets me is how blatant he is. He even winks at the reader in the last fifty pages; after 750 pages of setup and 50 of "war", in the 50 page denouement he has another character say to Honor, "This isn't going to be my war, Honor, it's going to be yours." or words to that effect. Actually, I've got the book right here, I'll look it up.
Here it is, page 853, "So I suppose-" he smiled crookedly at her "-that this war is going to be yours, Honor. Not mine."
What gall. If this book was supposed to be the setup, perhaps he should have titled it "Boring Political Prelude to War of Honor".
All I can say is that his next book is going to be his. Not mine.
It's very slow moving and talky. I actually know what he was trying to accomplish, well one of two things actually. He wanted to show the entire setup to a big war starting off, both sides, all the political maneuvering etc. He did an okay job of this. The problem is, it's boring as hell. I don't mind some political intrigue, character building stuff or whatever. But he's slathering it on because he wants to show every little thing. There are many ways he could have compressed the same info down without losing anything, but I can tell he didn't want to do that. He wanted to show every little thing because he's DAVID WEBER and he's damn well earned it after 7 books.
Anyway, on to the bait-and-switch. This was the other purpose of the book, other than lining the author's pockets. Again, what gets me is how blatant he is. He even winks at the reader in the last fifty pages; after 750 pages of setup and 50 of "war", in the 50 page denouement he has another character say to Honor, "This isn't going to be my war, Honor, it's going to be yours." or words to that effect. Actually, I've got the book right here, I'll look it up.
Here it is, page 853, "So I suppose-" he smiled crookedly at her "-that this war is going to be yours, Honor. Not mine."
What gall. If this book was supposed to be the setup, perhaps he should have titled it "Boring Political Prelude to War of Honor".
All I can say is that his next book is going to be his. Not mine.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
kevin hebert
I was less than thrilled with Weber's previous Honor Harrington book so it was with much trepidation that I bought this one. I was more than pleasantly surprised with this book. The story telling aspects that have made this author a favorite were still here and there was some satisfactory conclusion to tangling threads with Honor's characterization that were more than a little niggling and annoying for their failure to be addressed in the book prior to this one. I feel vindicated by it. Oh, and the CD that comes with it is almost worth the price of the book alone, even if you hate it.
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
bethany brown
Opening Disclaimer: If you click on the "About Fairportfan" link, you will discover that my name is michael a. weber, and that i am David Weber's elder brother. I was the one who asked Baen Books editor Toni Weisskopf (at an SF convention) if she'd like to see a military SF novel by my brother that was getting no respect at another publisher. I mention this at the beginning of any reviews of his work that i write. Mostly if you check my reviews of Dave's work, you'll find the bias is toward five stars -- and not because he's my brother, but because they're Good Stuff in which (mostly) Dave plays to his strengths and minimises his weaknesses.
One of his weaknesses, unfortunately, is that he just can't write Villains that don't remind me of Oilcan Harry menacing Pearl Pureheart in a Mighty Mouse cartoon.
That's *Villains*, mind -- people like Pavel Young or Steadholder Mueller -- as opposed to Bad Guys, like the military types on The Other Side who are just doing their duty as best they can. (Rob Pierre falls somewhere between the two, and is the closest to a Villain who doesn't just do things because he's Evial, but because, at base, he actually has a more or less worthwhile End that he uses to justify his Means that Dave has successfully pulled off.)
Unfortunately, this book is full of Villains, all sneering and twirling their mustachios for all they're worth.
I suppose, for those who agree more than i do with David's politics, this book is a more satisfying read than it was for me -- in fact, i believe that i noticed a five-star review which basically said something like that -- but i bounced off it twice (once in a pre-publication manuscript that Dave e-mailed me) before finally managing to finish it.
Basically, there are:
Too much talk, not enough action.
Too much politics, not enough of the Real World,
and,
Too many characters, not enough people.
Intelligent people act uncharacteristically dumb to make the plot work. Neither side in a complex and important negotiation bothers to double-check that messages between the parties are relayed accurately.
What space warfare there is is curiously uninvolving.
And the subplot of Honor's starcrossed romantic life is irritating.
All that said, this is a necessary book, getting us from, essentially, the Napoleonic Era to, maybe, World War One in terms of the Realpolitik of the Galaxy, and setting up the new framework that future books will be set within.
That doesn't make it any more readable.
I think i'll go back and reread some of David's books that i gave five stars to while i'm waiting for the next Honor to see if i'm right...
One of his weaknesses, unfortunately, is that he just can't write Villains that don't remind me of Oilcan Harry menacing Pearl Pureheart in a Mighty Mouse cartoon.
That's *Villains*, mind -- people like Pavel Young or Steadholder Mueller -- as opposed to Bad Guys, like the military types on The Other Side who are just doing their duty as best they can. (Rob Pierre falls somewhere between the two, and is the closest to a Villain who doesn't just do things because he's Evial, but because, at base, he actually has a more or less worthwhile End that he uses to justify his Means that Dave has successfully pulled off.)
Unfortunately, this book is full of Villains, all sneering and twirling their mustachios for all they're worth.
I suppose, for those who agree more than i do with David's politics, this book is a more satisfying read than it was for me -- in fact, i believe that i noticed a five-star review which basically said something like that -- but i bounced off it twice (once in a pre-publication manuscript that Dave e-mailed me) before finally managing to finish it.
Basically, there are:
Too much talk, not enough action.
Too much politics, not enough of the Real World,
and,
Too many characters, not enough people.
Intelligent people act uncharacteristically dumb to make the plot work. Neither side in a complex and important negotiation bothers to double-check that messages between the parties are relayed accurately.
What space warfare there is is curiously uninvolving.
And the subplot of Honor's starcrossed romantic life is irritating.
All that said, this is a necessary book, getting us from, essentially, the Napoleonic Era to, maybe, World War One in terms of the Realpolitik of the Galaxy, and setting up the new framework that future books will be set within.
That doesn't make it any more readable.
I think i'll go back and reread some of David's books that i gave five stars to while i'm waiting for the next Honor to see if i'm right...
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
sarah ogden
"A Reader from Texas" already said everything I had planned to say. 600+ pages of people sitting around tables discussing politics. Only one full blown space battle and that was quickly over. Honor Harrington spends very little time "on camera". And while the overall plot of the series was perfectly poised to move on to fresh new story arcs at the end of "War of Honor" we seem to have taken a few steps backward.
A certain amount of monotony is the price we pay for Mr. Webers finely crafted stories. And I have no doubt that his attention to the fine details is why Honor Harrington is such a well loved character. But this is without a doubt the most tedious Sci-Fi novel I have ever read. I kept hoping it was going to get better, but it just kept dragging on and on. I can only hope that in the next book Mr. Weber pulls a rabit out of his hat and throws us some surprises and new directions.
A certain amount of monotony is the price we pay for Mr. Webers finely crafted stories. And I have no doubt that his attention to the fine details is why Honor Harrington is such a well loved character. But this is without a doubt the most tedious Sci-Fi novel I have ever read. I kept hoping it was going to get better, but it just kept dragging on and on. I can only hope that in the next book Mr. Weber pulls a rabit out of his hat and throws us some surprises and new directions.
★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆
rj1bhm
Four stars, I felt it dragged a little as the plot was setup through intricate politics. Not the same edge of action that most of the others in the series have offered. I could easily (and did) put it aside were others kept me up reading.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
elise thanasouras
This book explores the political processes involved in government operation and decisions regarding financial allocation of public funds for public programs vs. military spending. Also explored are the processes in manipulating public opinion in regards to political agenda. That all of this is wrapped up in a facinating story with well developed characterization is a bonus for those who enjoy brain exercise along with reading recreation.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
texassky
I read the book in installments on Baen's websubscriptions and then bought it when it released. War of Honor nearly killed me waiting for the next set of chapters. I would ration myself to one a day. Okay... so this one was not as heavy on the Space Battles. There was more polotics. BVut that was the POINT!! There is a lull in the storm and all of the political issues lend stress and suspense to where the story is going. I think Weber did an excellent job of portraying the Star Kingdom's slide towards two potential Wars that nobody wants. If he had not had as much politics I do not think it would have worked. At the very least I would not have developed the loathing for some of the characters that made their getting their cumpupance(sp>) so sweet. Heck, I love the Action, but it the context of the Action that makes it so much more interesting.
★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆
melissa hughes
The title of this book should be "Bore of Honor" or maybe "Talk of Honor" or maybe "Committee Meetings of Honor." The only war is the fight to stay awake while trying to get through 800 pages of mind numbing talk, talk , talk. There are a few action pieces. Unfortunately, they seem to have been deleted in favor of the descriptions of endless committee meetings. They are big teases. Just when it seems like we will have something exciting, the chapter ends. The next chapter usually starts with what amounts to an after action report. All of the Space Navies, Manticoran, Grayson, Andermani, even the peeps, er RHN types, are noble, alert, concientious, hard working, cheerful, competent, etc. The policitians are slime ball idiots (hey, not bad David! You got one thing right!). Honor and her love interest act like teenagers. Please, spare us all of the guilt trips. Could somebody just screw things up without the pop psychology and the endless speeches of noblesse oblige? I guess greed got the better of Weber. He should have let Honor hang up her galactic spurs after the last book. This one might be considered a "junction too far."
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
cpt frey
I agree that this is long. There's not nearly the action in this novel that was in some of the others in the series. But...
The groundwork is now laid for at least two - three more novels in the series. (An upcoming war with the Solarian League should be in the offing.) And there is a depth to the characters that normally isn't explored in a science fiction series. The comments that Honor is acting like a teenage girl - think about it (and her) for a second. Prolong kept her gangly - then she was assaulted and nearly raped. Paul Tankersly was killed because he loved her. She has lost an arm and an eye. And she happens to be one of the wealthiest women in the Star Kingdom - who also has a full time naval career in addition to being a Steadholder. Now answer this question.
When has she had TIME to find out about love and her inner feelings?
As a seasoned reader of the series, after a while the space combat really becomes secondary to the characters. You get to know these people as friends - Rafe, Scotty, Sir Horace, Shannon Foraker. Action is nice - but after a while, it's all the same.
The groundwork is now laid for at least two - three more novels in the series. (An upcoming war with the Solarian League should be in the offing.) And there is a depth to the characters that normally isn't explored in a science fiction series. The comments that Honor is acting like a teenage girl - think about it (and her) for a second. Prolong kept her gangly - then she was assaulted and nearly raped. Paul Tankersly was killed because he loved her. She has lost an arm and an eye. And she happens to be one of the wealthiest women in the Star Kingdom - who also has a full time naval career in addition to being a Steadholder. Now answer this question.
When has she had TIME to find out about love and her inner feelings?
As a seasoned reader of the series, after a while the space combat really becomes secondary to the characters. You get to know these people as friends - Rafe, Scotty, Sir Horace, Shannon Foraker. Action is nice - but after a while, it's all the same.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
chicky kadambari
Well, I do tend to agree with several of the reviewers that the "internal monologues" are a bit too prevelant in this, "War of Honor"... and that there is a bit too much "strategy review" going on... This is true of the entire series and one thing I wish Weber would find another way to introduce what is necessary about these "background thoughts". But, in spite of all that, I disagree with those who claim that Weber has run out of gas... The plot in this story moves along quite well (not at tautly as, for example, "In Enemy Hands"). But, I see much of this as being the set up for the next adventure for Admiral Dame Honor Harrington and Steadholder Harrington.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
craig patterson
Honor Harrington is the best thing available. War Of Honor is an excellent book, maintaining the detailed universe of its predecessors and expanding upon it. The Peeps are back under a new name, with competent leadership this time, and things look grim for the star kingdom. Good, I say. I was sick and tired of watching the RMN kick the Peeps' butt all the time, it's time the field was levelled a bit. And Weber does it in such a plausible way, you don't even notice the full magnitude of the change until the last 100 pages, where... well, I'll let you find out. But anyway, read this book. Honor is different, more mature, more powerful, except for the rather lame romance bits. But I forgive that part, because it takes like 5 of the 800-some pages of goodness.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
jodie st clair
First off, I know many were annoyed by this book. It was long, too long (well it was big), not enough action (it did center around politics) and it didn't have enough Honor. Well...Yes the book was long, but Weber is trying to expand the universe he has created, flesh out the stories and leave room for possible future twists. That, in my opinion, is good. True, it did have alot of politics, but this was more of a situation building book than a book devoted to an already ongoing conflict. And, in my opinion, the politics were interesting and very well done. Having the war start as almost a conspiracy (won't spoil it more than that) on the hands of a rather dis-honest individual was a somewhat unique plotline and one that I thought was well played. The addition of the Andermani as major players was refreshing. I really like the character of Chien Lu, the Emperors, cousin I think he was? His character is one I would love to see again in a broader role as well as the Andermani in general. And as for enough Honor...
Let me say that this particular series is my favorite science fiction series BECAUSE of Honor Harrington. She is a fantastic character. You almost have to fall in love with her while reading the books. (Who doesn't love Asian girls...okay, half Asian girls? ;D ) She is a military genius, a quick wit and a truly caring woman, how could you not at least admire her? That being said, I love the fact that Weber has opened up the books to more of the side characters. Especially the Haven characters; Thomas Theisman (My other favorite character), Eloise Pritchart, Javier Giscard, Lester Tourville and Shannon Foraker. We also see alot more of the Queen of Manticore (an interesting character really, at first I thought she was superfluous, now she's grown on me) and more of White Haven (who was already a fairly large character anyway). All of that being said, I think it's about time that the story was fleshed out more as well. When I first started reading this series (back when Honor Among Enemies was the new release) I loved the books...but craved more. I wanted more depth, a larger tapestry. Oh I loved the books, but it wasn't until Flag in Exile that really started being absorbed by the universe Weber had created. And quite frankly, the early books were way too one sided. The Peoples Republic of Haven was seemingly a paper tiger, the Star Kingdom could practically sneeze and force a sector wide surrender for crying out loud! But with the ascent of Esther McQueen and the book Echoes of Honor; that changed. (what can I say, I'm a secret Peep admirer)
War of Honor ends with the Star Kingdom on the ropes, yes, Haven and Manticore are back at war...but it's a diplomatic disaster of epic proportions that was manufactured to happen. And the New Republican fleet is better and badder, making for a much more interesting read. The Andermani are a huge presence in the book (finally) and it seems as though the Solarian League is finally getting drawn in as well. I haven't yet read At All Costs (just finished this one before work today) but I am very much looking forward to it.
Thank you David Weber for creating such a great universe and for tweaking it in a new and (I think) better way. I sincerely hope that there are several more books in the series...just don't pull a Robert Jordan. (By shuffling off this mortal coil I mean...this series can drag on for a while and I'd still read.)
Let me say that this particular series is my favorite science fiction series BECAUSE of Honor Harrington. She is a fantastic character. You almost have to fall in love with her while reading the books. (Who doesn't love Asian girls...okay, half Asian girls? ;D ) She is a military genius, a quick wit and a truly caring woman, how could you not at least admire her? That being said, I love the fact that Weber has opened up the books to more of the side characters. Especially the Haven characters; Thomas Theisman (My other favorite character), Eloise Pritchart, Javier Giscard, Lester Tourville and Shannon Foraker. We also see alot more of the Queen of Manticore (an interesting character really, at first I thought she was superfluous, now she's grown on me) and more of White Haven (who was already a fairly large character anyway). All of that being said, I think it's about time that the story was fleshed out more as well. When I first started reading this series (back when Honor Among Enemies was the new release) I loved the books...but craved more. I wanted more depth, a larger tapestry. Oh I loved the books, but it wasn't until Flag in Exile that really started being absorbed by the universe Weber had created. And quite frankly, the early books were way too one sided. The Peoples Republic of Haven was seemingly a paper tiger, the Star Kingdom could practically sneeze and force a sector wide surrender for crying out loud! But with the ascent of Esther McQueen and the book Echoes of Honor; that changed. (what can I say, I'm a secret Peep admirer)
War of Honor ends with the Star Kingdom on the ropes, yes, Haven and Manticore are back at war...but it's a diplomatic disaster of epic proportions that was manufactured to happen. And the New Republican fleet is better and badder, making for a much more interesting read. The Andermani are a huge presence in the book (finally) and it seems as though the Solarian League is finally getting drawn in as well. I haven't yet read At All Costs (just finished this one before work today) but I am very much looking forward to it.
Thank you David Weber for creating such a great universe and for tweaking it in a new and (I think) better way. I sincerely hope that there are several more books in the series...just don't pull a Robert Jordan. (By shuffling off this mortal coil I mean...this series can drag on for a while and I'd still read.)
★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆
nonika
I have put up with long winded back stories in the middle of the story because Weber is great with dialog and action . . . when he gets around to them. But I had hoped for less of the former and more of the latter in this latest installment after Ashes of Victory. I can only hope that now that the gloves are off (and the MDMs are flying) that we can get back to some good old fashioned space opera fleet engagements with Honor squarely in the heroic hot seat, where she seems to be heading, and where she belongs. Frankly, I enjoyed the short story anthology "Changer of Worlds" more than I did this overlong novella. Give us back the kick-[rear] warrior, and ditch the noblewoman suffering from interminable heartache.
★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆
mark arundel
I have been reading Webber's books for years and I have to say this is not one of his better ones. If you think Webber writes good intrigue and politics then you will probably like it (intrigue and politics is about 80% of the book). I'm not in that category however.
What action there is dosen't really start until around page 795... What few battles there are take little more then a paragraph to cover. The characters that Webber expands upon in the first 60% of the book are mostly discarded by the end. The mysterious new junction that has been brought up from time to time? It's pointless and does virtually nothing for the story except strech it out.
There are only two good points to this book. First off Baen did a Bind-in of the ENTIRE series on CD-ROM in several formats, html, palm, and RTF. If it wasn't for this I would feel cheated. Second, this book litterly resets the storyline back to the end of "Short Victorious War". If Webber drasticly cuts down on the politics and intrigue (50% of this book was pointless) then the story might be worth reading again.
What action there is dosen't really start until around page 795... What few battles there are take little more then a paragraph to cover. The characters that Webber expands upon in the first 60% of the book are mostly discarded by the end. The mysterious new junction that has been brought up from time to time? It's pointless and does virtually nothing for the story except strech it out.
There are only two good points to this book. First off Baen did a Bind-in of the ENTIRE series on CD-ROM in several formats, html, palm, and RTF. If it wasn't for this I would feel cheated. Second, this book litterly resets the storyline back to the end of "Short Victorious War". If Webber drasticly cuts down on the politics and intrigue (50% of this book was pointless) then the story might be worth reading again.
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
dana mullins
I was truly disappointed in War of Honor. It doesn't compare at all with the first 8 books in the Honor Harrington series. However, it does compare quite nicely to its predecessor Ashes of Victory, they both stink. As far as I'm concerned you can completely skip the first three fourths of the book. The last fourth of the book isn't much, but at least we saw a little of the Honor we know from earlier books. I'm so glad I didn't waste even more money by buying the hardcover version.
Will I buy the next book, of course I will. But please Mr. Weber, write it like the first 8 books, and not like a boring political novel.
Will I buy the next book, of course I will. But please Mr. Weber, write it like the first 8 books, and not like a boring political novel.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
merrilyn
Ok, the book itself is only worth four stars. It's good, but not "Honor Among Enemies" or "Honor of the Queen" greatness. It is definitely worth reading in hardback and not waiting for paperback though. Honor is back. Unfortunately, so are High Ridge, Descroix and New Kiev, and all of their stench. War of Honor should probably be called "War of Stupidity", but I'll not spoil it for you. Just wait until you find out what Samantha does...
And, if that were not enough, the included CD alone is worth the additional star to make this a 5-star book. The CD has all the Honor novels, plus dozens of other novels and partial novels by John Ringo, David Drake, Eric Flint and others. Sooo much goodness, so little time...
And, if that were not enough, the included CD alone is worth the additional star to make this a 5-star book. The CD has all the Honor novels, plus dozens of other novels and partial novels by John Ringo, David Drake, Eric Flint and others. Sooo much goodness, so little time...
★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆
zen cho
The entire war in this 861 page novel only took up 1 page and didnt't even start until the last chapter. This book is devoid of any detailed military conflict. The one and only only battle lasted only a few sentences. This is a purely POLITICAL sci-fi novel. I kept reading on and on and on waiting to get to the "good" part but it never came. The Harrington novels are military sci-fi but this was a purely political book and because of that a great dissapointment. The political intrigue was interesting for a chapter or two but not for 860 pages!
Mr. Weber, where is the "war" in War of Honor? Will I have to wait another year or two to find it in the next book?
Mr. Weber, where is the "war" in War of Honor? Will I have to wait another year or two to find it in the next book?
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
juanma santiago
I have to say that this book is one of my top three favorite Honor Harrington novels. Webber crafts a scifi tale that can be easily linked to events in the past without sounding like a history lesson. His characters continued to grow in new and unexpected ways that keep your attention through out the novel. This book is a set up story for future novels, and sets into motion the events that will drive the series in the future. Not to say it is lacking action or interest, but that action is more character driven then warfare. IT is a perfect set up, and I recommend it. READ IT
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
tracy moran
Sad to say but this was not up to the standards I expected from D. Weber based upon his other Honor books. Some parts were very long, almost minute-to-minute, other parts you'd skip over whole weeks/months and have to readjust where you were in the timeline. When I finished I was suprised at how many pages there were, over 800, and yet I barely felt like I had acutaly gotten to the true climax.
Did not feel any of the breathless excitment or heated emotions that I've come to expect of the Honor series. Purely an investment for the continuation of the series. Not something I'd read again.
Did not feel any of the breathless excitment or heated emotions that I've come to expect of the Honor series. Purely an investment for the continuation of the series. Not something I'd read again.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
peta young
Another fine addition to the World of Honor Harrington. Although the political intrique can bog down the story line, this book is a fine piece of work by David Weber. A pleasant surprise was the CD in the back of the book with loads and loads of information and if I counted correctly almost 80 books. The Baen Library method of dissemanation for these books and many other authors' books has no equal of shared prose. I also liked the ability to share these with my cousin. We have been sharing books for more than 50 years, and although not of the same sex, we have always enjoyed the same types of books. She introduced me to Honor Harrington several years ago, and we have rushed each time there is a new book to see who could read it first.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
malika
This latest of the Harrington series continues with the saga of the Salamander--a female starship admiral with a penchant for being in the "right" place at the wrong time for the enemy. Political intrigue with the Peeps continues, with twists of plot that are unexpected. The usual military details on weapons can be a bit overwhelming at times, but this book moves the epic of the Manticoran world ahead nicely with a surprise ending on the last two pages.
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
sheik dioumone
I will say this for Weber: It took 8 or 9 decent books for this series to run out of steam.
Too bad, because the early books were really enjoyable. As other folks have said, "War of Honor" is a bit of a chore to read.
Also, as other folks have pointed out, really the strongest aspect of the series is reading about Honor Harrington kicking *ss. Which is largely absent from "War of Honor."
The truth is that "War of Honor" could have been decent if it had been edited down. Instead we're saddled with (literally) hundreds of pages of internal monologue, silly banter, and C-SPANesque discussion.
Too bad, because the early books were really enjoyable. As other folks have said, "War of Honor" is a bit of a chore to read.
Also, as other folks have pointed out, really the strongest aspect of the series is reading about Honor Harrington kicking *ss. Which is largely absent from "War of Honor."
The truth is that "War of Honor" could have been decent if it had been edited down. Instead we're saddled with (literally) hundreds of pages of internal monologue, silly banter, and C-SPANesque discussion.
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
katie matthews
I REALLY was anxious to get my hot little hands on this. What a disappointment! 900 pages of boring dialogue, poor plot, lousy characters and maybe a 100 pages of action. And in the end all it does is set up a sequel! I may or may not read the sequel (Alright, I will read it, but I'll object.) I really hope Weber gets back on track. This stunk!
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
megh
In order to understand this book.... you have to read the books on the CD included with this book. Otherwise you will be bored and confused as to what is happening. Start with "On Balisk Station" and go from there.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
anamaria blenche
This latest of the Harrington series continues with the saga of the Salamander--a female starship admiral with a penchant for being in the "right" place at the wrong time for the enemy. Political intrigue with the Peeps continues, with twists of plot that are unexpected. The usual military details on weapons can be a bit overwhelming at times, but this book moves the epic of the Manticoran world ahead nicely with a surprise ending on the last two pages.
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
angie c
I will say this for Weber: It took 8 or 9 decent books for this series to run out of steam.
Too bad, because the early books were really enjoyable. As other folks have said, "War of Honor" is a bit of a chore to read.
Also, as other folks have pointed out, really the strongest aspect of the series is reading about Honor Harrington kicking *ss. Which is largely absent from "War of Honor."
The truth is that "War of Honor" could have been decent if it had been edited down. Instead we're saddled with (literally) hundreds of pages of internal monologue, silly banter, and C-SPANesque discussion.
Too bad, because the early books were really enjoyable. As other folks have said, "War of Honor" is a bit of a chore to read.
Also, as other folks have pointed out, really the strongest aspect of the series is reading about Honor Harrington kicking *ss. Which is largely absent from "War of Honor."
The truth is that "War of Honor" could have been decent if it had been edited down. Instead we're saddled with (literally) hundreds of pages of internal monologue, silly banter, and C-SPANesque discussion.
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
the caterpillar
I REALLY was anxious to get my hot little hands on this. What a disappointment! 900 pages of boring dialogue, poor plot, lousy characters and maybe a 100 pages of action. And in the end all it does is set up a sequel! I may or may not read the sequel (Alright, I will read it, but I'll object.) I really hope Weber gets back on track. This stunk!
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
shongi
In order to understand this book.... you have to read the books on the CD included with this book. Otherwise you will be bored and confused as to what is happening. Start with "On Balisk Station" and go from there.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
lstock68
First, oldreader from GA and several others seem to have not read this book at all. The statement that "nothing was resolved" is preposterous. The subplots resolved and intertwined beutifully in the end, and Weber took so long to do it because his editor gave him a little leeway in which to work! The time he spent developing the side-stories gave the whole thing a wonderfully complete feel.
It is a long story. Nevertheless, the whole Honor Harrington series comes in at well over 5000 pages; what's 800 in one book? I believe that the space Weber was given was well used to work his craft. Bravo to David Weber, and I can't wait until the next one!
It is a long story. Nevertheless, the whole Honor Harrington series comes in at well over 5000 pages; what's 800 in one book? I believe that the space Weber was given was well used to work his craft. Bravo to David Weber, and I can't wait until the next one!
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
tiffani erickson
There is never enough of Honor and her adventures! Each book gives us a little more of the story however the Honorverse is so rich and detailed that the series could go on for many more books. Of course there are side stories not covered that is what makes this series so rich and satisfying. I have read each book many times and each new reading just increases the pleasure and satisfaction. More please!
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
allan john dizon garcia
Nearly all of David Weber books are so good that you cannot put them down. His latest however is not in that category. Lenghty political discussions with petty and small minded characters do not require 700 pages, but 70. The remaining 100 being good.
However the broad painting of this universe remain well written and not too boring if one reads fast.
However the broad painting of this universe remain well written and not too boring if one reads fast.
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
marieke
This is a big disappointment in a series I haved loved for years. Although some recent editions have had 100, maybe 200 pages of introduction, this one has 800. As discussed in other reviews, lots of committees and talk, all leading to an obviously avoidable war. This is not worthy of Mr. Weber.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
penni higgens
This is a long book and is not action packed. Because of this it might not be to the linking of everyone. This book is however very important for setting the board for important events in the series and does a great job at it.
Some of Mr. Weber's descriptions are a bit long and can become a trifle annoying. Fortunately such descriptions are not so frequent in the book and do not compromise the actual story being told.
Some of Mr. Weber's descriptions are a bit long and can become a trifle annoying. Fortunately such descriptions are not so frequent in the book and do not compromise the actual story being told.
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
zvonko
I found this book to be a disappointment. It was much too long and had far too many subplots. I have enjoyed most of the Honor Harrington books, but this one diverges from the usual without adding to the series. Honor is in love, but we are supposed to believe she is naieve as a teenager about it and its consequences. There are side plots that have very little to do with the story. The battles that we have come to expect don't occur until the very end of the book. The book ends with most of the conflict unresolved.
★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆
janet rosfeld
Clearly the worst of the entire series, ham-fisted, slow paced and incredibly predictable.
a brief synopsis: The jerks have come to political power, now let's try to stay awake through 800 pages while said jerks screw everything up, crap we are running out of pages, Ok Honor time to save the day.
Have you ever been sitting at a restaurant and had your meal ruined because you are forced to over hear the most inane trivial conversation that is emanating from the people at the table next to you? Reading this book is like that except worse.
a brief synopsis: The jerks have come to political power, now let's try to stay awake through 800 pages while said jerks screw everything up, crap we are running out of pages, Ok Honor time to save the day.
Have you ever been sitting at a restaurant and had your meal ruined because you are forced to over hear the most inane trivial conversation that is emanating from the people at the table next to you? Reading this book is like that except worse.
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
martha mcnair
Very different from previous books which I greatly enjoyed - where the politics were definitely supportive to the action - in this book, there is all too little action, and what little there is seems incidental to the politics.
★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆
d s moses
“War of Honor” **10
Stereotype / Stock character: Mary Sue: author character, author surrogate, self-insertion
Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington is correct about everything. Everybody who doubts her is wrong and evil. The only people who disappoint her have no morality or common decency.
The Manpower Incident (genetic slavery scandal) is centered on the Conservative Association and the Liberal Party. Only 2 members of the Centrist Party are involved. In reality, political groups do not display the unity described by Weber. While there are instances of absolute political unity concerning legislation, Weber fails to include the internal divisions seen in real life politics. Weber’s political parties never show internal fracturing unless they are confronted with destruction. Real life political parties show internal fracturing on all/any legislation.
Good political parties
-- Manticore Centrist Party
-- Manticore Crown Loyalist Party
Evil political parties
-- Manticore Conservative Association
-- Manticore Liberal Party
-- Manticore New Men Party
-- Manticore Progressive Party
Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington’s corporation; Grayson Sky Domes, Ltd.; is listed on the Kingdom Five Hundred (real life 500 lists) of the Star Empire of Manticore (Star Kingdom of Manticore).
Clarise Childers; the president and senior partner of the Childers, Strauslund, Goldman, and Wu law firm; personally conducts the negotiations with the ski consortiums to develop ski resorts in the Duchy of Harrington (Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington); located on the planet Gryphon. The law firm’s only clients are: the Hauptman Cartel, the Hauptman family, and Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington.
Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington is said to be able to inspire everybody to achieve everything. She is capable of defeating any obstacle, with the exception of the people who are evil and do not follow her beliefs.
After meeting with Chien-lu Anderman, Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington shows remorse that she deployed reconnaissance (surveillance) drones to analyze the Imperial Andermani Navy ships. In reality, such espionage/intelligence is expected regardless of the situation.
Zhenting Isenhoffer apologizes for having possibly insulted her; Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington is written as being able to ignore the law since she is perfect.
All of her officers always show her respect and never question any of her actions. Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington always controls her wrath and rage. She refuses to believe anything evil about the people she supports and admires.
Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington’s Grayson bodyguard commander, Andrew LaFollet, shows his fanaticism by making sure that she is always alone at the target practice range. In addition, Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington’s noble (nobility) titles allow her to take her bodyguards anywhere and everywhere. This is a privilege that she alone has and nobody else deserves because they lack her achievements.
Helen Antonia Zilwicki, a major supporting character, is the youngest person ever to earn a brown belt in Neue-Stil Handgemenge (New-Style Hand-to-Hand Melee, Neuer Handgemengestil, Neuer-Stil-Handgemenge) from Robert Tye.
Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington has been given too much respect and glory. She is Manticore’s only first rate hero/heroine. Hamish Alexander-Harrington and the other admirals/captains are written as: second rate, third rate, fourth rate, fifth rate, sixth rate (rating system of the Royal Navy); officers.
The use of “moral courage” has been overused.
The treecats have been given too many privileges and exceptions, however they are not held responsible for their actions. Eventually Weber will write that the treecat’s abilities of empathy and telepathy are used for loyalty tests of everybody. This type of loyalty test is already used by the royal guard of the Kingdom of Torch (Congo, Elysium, Verdant Vista), Lara’s Own Regiment. In the Honorverse, privacy is irrelevant and the concept of trust is obsolete. Weber has forgotten what happened in the United States of America:
-- Communist Control Act of 1954
-- Communist registration act
-- Executive Order 9835 (Loyalty Order)
-- First Red Scare
-- House Committee on Un-American Activities (HCUA) (HUAC)
-- Joseph Raymond McCarthy
-- Loyalty Review Board
-- McCarran Internal Security Act (Internal Security Act, McCarran Act, Subversive Activities Control Act)
-- McCarthyism
-- Second Red Scare
-- States Attorney General’s List of Subversive Organizations
-- Subversive Activities Control Board
Elizabeth Adrienne Samantha Annette Winton fails to control her temper. Weber needs to write a storyline where Elizabeth Adrienne Samantha Annette Winton loses her temper too often and leads the Star Empire of Manticore (Star Kingdom of Manticore) to civil war while also dishonoring the House of Winton.
The character of Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington’s mother, Allison Benton-Ramirez y Chou Harrington, is long overdue to make a mistake that results in exile and dishonor from all of society. She returns only after having completely changed her ways; she no longer teases everybody.
Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington immediately wants to seek vengeance on the Landing Tattler writer, Solomon Hayes. However, she would have lectured someone else about the need for restraint and justice.
Weber needs to write that genetic engineering (biological engineering, biological systems engineering, biotechnology) is not evil. The ethics of genetic engineering (biological engineering, biological systems engineering, biotechnology) have always been written in good-and-evil terms. Genetic engineering (biological engineering, biological systems engineering, biotechnology) has always been written as evil regardless of use. “Andromeda” had a balanced view of genetic engineering (biological engineering, biological systems engineering, biotechnology).
Weber has written that technology is only evil if it is misused. He has never written about the evils of cybernetic (actroid, android, bionics, cyborg, gynoid, humanoid robot, robot, robotics) surgery. Cybernetics (actroid, android, bionics, cyborg, gynoid, humanoid robot, robot, robotics) have been written as being irrelevant to a person’s morality. Weber should write that cybernetics (actroid, android, bionics, cyborg, gynoid, humanoid robot, robot, robotics) are seen as dehumanizing and Sharpton is reviled for its heavy use of cybernetics (actroid, android, bionics, cyborg, gynoid, humanoid robot, robot, robotics). In the “Star Wars” universe, cyborgs were viewed with distrust and fear since they were part machine and had been dehumanized.
The Beowulf Life Sciences Code outlaws any serious genetic engineering (biological engineering, biological systems engineering, biotechnology), even for the colonization of heavy gravity (gravitation) planets. Even though the planets in San Martin (Trevor’s Star System) and the Star Empire of Manticore (Star Kingdom of Manticore) were colonized by modified colonists, it is now outlawed by known space. Modifying colonists for different environments is not the equivalent of the genetic slavery promoted by Mesa (Mesa System, Mesa Terminus).
Everything is written in “black-and-white” morality, there are no “shades of gray/grey” morality.
The things that Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington can do without failure:
-- alternative dispute resolution
-- appropriate dispute resolution
-- arbitration
-- bravery
-- character judgment
-- common decency
-- conciliation
-- courage
-- diplomacy
-- dispute resolution
-- duels (Dreyfus Protocol, Ellington Protocol)
-- emotional control
-- ethical behavior
-- external dispute resolution
-- facilitation
-- gliding (glider)
-- honor
-- integrity
-- leadership
-- logistics
-- marksman (designated marksman, scout sniper, sharpshooter (Scharfschütze), sniper)
-- martial arts (hybrid martial arts, mixed martial arts)
-- mediation
-- moral behavior
-- negotiation
-- non biased actions
-- politics
-- strategy
-- swordsmanship (Daishō, fencing)
-- tactics
Honor Harrington
-- HH1 -- On Basilisk Station
-- HH2 -- The Honor of the Queen
-- HH3 -- The Short Victorious War
-- HH4 -- Field of Dishonor
-- HH5 -- Flag in Exile
-- HH6 -- Honor Among Enemies
-- HH7 -- In Enemy Hands
-- HH8 -- Echoes of Honor
-- HH9 -- Ashes of Victory
-- HH10 -- War of Honor
-- HH11 -- At All Costs
-- HH12 -- Mission of Honor
-- HH13 -- A Rising Thunder
-- HH14 -- Shadow of Freedom
Anthologies
-- HHA1 -- More Than Honor
-- HHA2 -- Worlds of Honor
-- HHA3 -- Changer of Worlds
-- HHA4 -- The Service of the Sword
-- HHA5 -- In Fire Forged
-- HHA6 -- Beginnings
Crown of Slaves
-- CS0 -- From the Highlands (Changer of Worlds)
-- CS0 -- Fanatic (The Service of the Sword)
-- CS1 -- Crown of Slaves
-- CS2 -- Torch of Freedom
-- CS3 -- Cauldron of Ghosts
Saganami Island
-- SI1 -- The Shadow of Saganami
-- SI2 -- Storm from the Shadows
-- SI3 -- Shadow of Freedom
Star Kingdom
-- SK1 -- A Beautiful Friendship
-- SK2 -- Fire Season
-- SK3 -- Treecat Wars
Manticore Ascendant
-- MA1 -- A Call to Duty
-- MA2 -- A Call to Arms
-- MA3 -- A Call to Vengeance
Book Companion
-- HOS -- House of Steel: The Honorverse Companion
-- HOSH -- House of Shadows: The Honorverse Companion
-- HOL -- House of Lies: The Honorverse Companion
Jayne’s Intelligence Review
-- JIR1 -- Jayne’s Intelligence Review, Vol. 1 -- The Royal Manticoran Navy
-- JIR2 -- Jayne’s Intelligence Review, Vol. 2 -- The Havenite Republican Navy
-- JIR3 -- Jayne’s Intelligence Review, Vol. 3 -- The Silesian Confederate Navy
Ship Book
-- SB1 -- Ship Book 1: The Havenite Sector
-- SB2 -- Ship Book 2: The Silesian Confederacy
-- SB3 -- Ship Book 3: The Short Victorious War
Stereotype / Stock character: Mary Sue: author character, author surrogate, self-insertion
Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington is correct about everything. Everybody who doubts her is wrong and evil. The only people who disappoint her have no morality or common decency.
The Manpower Incident (genetic slavery scandal) is centered on the Conservative Association and the Liberal Party. Only 2 members of the Centrist Party are involved. In reality, political groups do not display the unity described by Weber. While there are instances of absolute political unity concerning legislation, Weber fails to include the internal divisions seen in real life politics. Weber’s political parties never show internal fracturing unless they are confronted with destruction. Real life political parties show internal fracturing on all/any legislation.
Good political parties
-- Manticore Centrist Party
-- Manticore Crown Loyalist Party
Evil political parties
-- Manticore Conservative Association
-- Manticore Liberal Party
-- Manticore New Men Party
-- Manticore Progressive Party
Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington’s corporation; Grayson Sky Domes, Ltd.; is listed on the Kingdom Five Hundred (real life 500 lists) of the Star Empire of Manticore (Star Kingdom of Manticore).
Clarise Childers; the president and senior partner of the Childers, Strauslund, Goldman, and Wu law firm; personally conducts the negotiations with the ski consortiums to develop ski resorts in the Duchy of Harrington (Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington); located on the planet Gryphon. The law firm’s only clients are: the Hauptman Cartel, the Hauptman family, and Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington.
Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington is said to be able to inspire everybody to achieve everything. She is capable of defeating any obstacle, with the exception of the people who are evil and do not follow her beliefs.
After meeting with Chien-lu Anderman, Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington shows remorse that she deployed reconnaissance (surveillance) drones to analyze the Imperial Andermani Navy ships. In reality, such espionage/intelligence is expected regardless of the situation.
Zhenting Isenhoffer apologizes for having possibly insulted her; Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington is written as being able to ignore the law since she is perfect.
All of her officers always show her respect and never question any of her actions. Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington always controls her wrath and rage. She refuses to believe anything evil about the people she supports and admires.
Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington’s Grayson bodyguard commander, Andrew LaFollet, shows his fanaticism by making sure that she is always alone at the target practice range. In addition, Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington’s noble (nobility) titles allow her to take her bodyguards anywhere and everywhere. This is a privilege that she alone has and nobody else deserves because they lack her achievements.
Helen Antonia Zilwicki, a major supporting character, is the youngest person ever to earn a brown belt in Neue-Stil Handgemenge (New-Style Hand-to-Hand Melee, Neuer Handgemengestil, Neuer-Stil-Handgemenge) from Robert Tye.
Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington has been given too much respect and glory. She is Manticore’s only first rate hero/heroine. Hamish Alexander-Harrington and the other admirals/captains are written as: second rate, third rate, fourth rate, fifth rate, sixth rate (rating system of the Royal Navy); officers.
The use of “moral courage” has been overused.
The treecats have been given too many privileges and exceptions, however they are not held responsible for their actions. Eventually Weber will write that the treecat’s abilities of empathy and telepathy are used for loyalty tests of everybody. This type of loyalty test is already used by the royal guard of the Kingdom of Torch (Congo, Elysium, Verdant Vista), Lara’s Own Regiment. In the Honorverse, privacy is irrelevant and the concept of trust is obsolete. Weber has forgotten what happened in the United States of America:
-- Communist Control Act of 1954
-- Communist registration act
-- Executive Order 9835 (Loyalty Order)
-- First Red Scare
-- House Committee on Un-American Activities (HCUA) (HUAC)
-- Joseph Raymond McCarthy
-- Loyalty Review Board
-- McCarran Internal Security Act (Internal Security Act, McCarran Act, Subversive Activities Control Act)
-- McCarthyism
-- Second Red Scare
-- States Attorney General’s List of Subversive Organizations
-- Subversive Activities Control Board
Elizabeth Adrienne Samantha Annette Winton fails to control her temper. Weber needs to write a storyline where Elizabeth Adrienne Samantha Annette Winton loses her temper too often and leads the Star Empire of Manticore (Star Kingdom of Manticore) to civil war while also dishonoring the House of Winton.
The character of Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington’s mother, Allison Benton-Ramirez y Chou Harrington, is long overdue to make a mistake that results in exile and dishonor from all of society. She returns only after having completely changed her ways; she no longer teases everybody.
Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington immediately wants to seek vengeance on the Landing Tattler writer, Solomon Hayes. However, she would have lectured someone else about the need for restraint and justice.
Weber needs to write that genetic engineering (biological engineering, biological systems engineering, biotechnology) is not evil. The ethics of genetic engineering (biological engineering, biological systems engineering, biotechnology) have always been written in good-and-evil terms. Genetic engineering (biological engineering, biological systems engineering, biotechnology) has always been written as evil regardless of use. “Andromeda” had a balanced view of genetic engineering (biological engineering, biological systems engineering, biotechnology).
Weber has written that technology is only evil if it is misused. He has never written about the evils of cybernetic (actroid, android, bionics, cyborg, gynoid, humanoid robot, robot, robotics) surgery. Cybernetics (actroid, android, bionics, cyborg, gynoid, humanoid robot, robot, robotics) have been written as being irrelevant to a person’s morality. Weber should write that cybernetics (actroid, android, bionics, cyborg, gynoid, humanoid robot, robot, robotics) are seen as dehumanizing and Sharpton is reviled for its heavy use of cybernetics (actroid, android, bionics, cyborg, gynoid, humanoid robot, robot, robotics). In the “Star Wars” universe, cyborgs were viewed with distrust and fear since they were part machine and had been dehumanized.
The Beowulf Life Sciences Code outlaws any serious genetic engineering (biological engineering, biological systems engineering, biotechnology), even for the colonization of heavy gravity (gravitation) planets. Even though the planets in San Martin (Trevor’s Star System) and the Star Empire of Manticore (Star Kingdom of Manticore) were colonized by modified colonists, it is now outlawed by known space. Modifying colonists for different environments is not the equivalent of the genetic slavery promoted by Mesa (Mesa System, Mesa Terminus).
Everything is written in “black-and-white” morality, there are no “shades of gray/grey” morality.
The things that Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington can do without failure:
-- alternative dispute resolution
-- appropriate dispute resolution
-- arbitration
-- bravery
-- character judgment
-- common decency
-- conciliation
-- courage
-- diplomacy
-- dispute resolution
-- duels (Dreyfus Protocol, Ellington Protocol)
-- emotional control
-- ethical behavior
-- external dispute resolution
-- facilitation
-- gliding (glider)
-- honor
-- integrity
-- leadership
-- logistics
-- marksman (designated marksman, scout sniper, sharpshooter (Scharfschütze), sniper)
-- martial arts (hybrid martial arts, mixed martial arts)
-- mediation
-- moral behavior
-- negotiation
-- non biased actions
-- politics
-- strategy
-- swordsmanship (Daishō, fencing)
-- tactics
Honor Harrington
-- HH1 -- On Basilisk Station
-- HH2 -- The Honor of the Queen
-- HH3 -- The Short Victorious War
-- HH4 -- Field of Dishonor
-- HH5 -- Flag in Exile
-- HH6 -- Honor Among Enemies
-- HH7 -- In Enemy Hands
-- HH8 -- Echoes of Honor
-- HH9 -- Ashes of Victory
-- HH10 -- War of Honor
-- HH11 -- At All Costs
-- HH12 -- Mission of Honor
-- HH13 -- A Rising Thunder
-- HH14 -- Shadow of Freedom
Anthologies
-- HHA1 -- More Than Honor
-- HHA2 -- Worlds of Honor
-- HHA3 -- Changer of Worlds
-- HHA4 -- The Service of the Sword
-- HHA5 -- In Fire Forged
-- HHA6 -- Beginnings
Crown of Slaves
-- CS0 -- From the Highlands (Changer of Worlds)
-- CS0 -- Fanatic (The Service of the Sword)
-- CS1 -- Crown of Slaves
-- CS2 -- Torch of Freedom
-- CS3 -- Cauldron of Ghosts
Saganami Island
-- SI1 -- The Shadow of Saganami
-- SI2 -- Storm from the Shadows
-- SI3 -- Shadow of Freedom
Star Kingdom
-- SK1 -- A Beautiful Friendship
-- SK2 -- Fire Season
-- SK3 -- Treecat Wars
Manticore Ascendant
-- MA1 -- A Call to Duty
-- MA2 -- A Call to Arms
-- MA3 -- A Call to Vengeance
Book Companion
-- HOS -- House of Steel: The Honorverse Companion
-- HOSH -- House of Shadows: The Honorverse Companion
-- HOL -- House of Lies: The Honorverse Companion
Jayne’s Intelligence Review
-- JIR1 -- Jayne’s Intelligence Review, Vol. 1 -- The Royal Manticoran Navy
-- JIR2 -- Jayne’s Intelligence Review, Vol. 2 -- The Havenite Republican Navy
-- JIR3 -- Jayne’s Intelligence Review, Vol. 3 -- The Silesian Confederate Navy
Ship Book
-- SB1 -- Ship Book 1: The Havenite Sector
-- SB2 -- Ship Book 2: The Silesian Confederacy
-- SB3 -- Ship Book 3: The Short Victorious War
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michelle marino
Hi,
I just gotta say this. David what are you doing? Over all the book is great. But there is a reason we all love Honor. It's because she is "Honorable" regardless of the cost. This affair with White haven, even with his wifes consent presents A whole new side of Honor that I never wanted to see and has turned me off a bit. Except for this, I love your books! Go Graysons!
I just gotta say this. David what are you doing? Over all the book is great. But there is a reason we all love Honor. It's because she is "Honorable" regardless of the cost. This affair with White haven, even with his wifes consent presents A whole new side of Honor that I never wanted to see and has turned me off a bit. Except for this, I love your books! Go Graysons!
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
clarice james
War of Honor is a perfect example of David Weber at his very best. The previously noted "mistakes" of Ashes of Victory, ie In depth stories of the treecats, Honors' teaching assignment, these were all items accused of slowing the story down. You will find little or none of that here.
HH10 sets a pace at the beginning and steadily builds to a strong climax....Likening it to other events when they're well done I suppose. I would certainly recommend this book to all HH fans, and new ones as well since the CD Rom contained within is an excellent way to hook the new ones while they're young.
Sleep is for the Weak
HH10 sets a pace at the beginning and steadily builds to a strong climax....Likening it to other events when they're well done I suppose. I would certainly recommend this book to all HH fans, and new ones as well since the CD Rom contained within is an excellent way to hook the new ones while they're young.
Sleep is for the Weak
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
ryan a
After i had the oppritunity to read an online copy of the first 6 chapters of this book ; I WILL BE definatly adding it to my collections of David Weber books. I cant emagine all the negative feedback. It set the stage for future novels of our favorite heroine. Duchess Harrington will be back with a vengence I'm sure ... OH we can't forget our favorite "cat"
Nitmitz.....
Nitmitz.....
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
teresa kintner gunderson
I doubt that anyone will ever see this on the store.com, but I simply MUST write it: I loved this book when I first read it. When I read it again, I loved it even more--and for much the same reasons that many other reviewers hated it.
Okay, I get it! You don't like books that are mostly talk, rather than action. Of course, this means you have to HATE "Foundation", by the late Isaac Asimov, and also any other book crafted the same way that one was. Think I'm kidding? Then go read "Foundation"--this time, for comprehension. The book has almost no action; it's all people talking about what's going to happen, then talking about the very different things that DID happen. And that's precisely what you encounter in "War of Honor"--a classic Isaac Asimov style of writing!
Imagine Asimov's "Foundation", written in a time when an SF "novel" isn't limited to less than 150 pages. Imagine what the great Dr. Asimov could have created, if his publisher would have allowed him 500+ pages to work with. What you see, if your imagination is really functional, is something at least a little bit like "War of Honor": a thoughtful, reflective book that had the room it needed to grow up.
If you don't like "War of Honor", you cannot claim to like "Foundation", so you've just demonstrated that you really shouldn't be reading--much less reviewing!--science fiction. My suggestion: go check out romance novels. You'll love them. That will leave those of us who love science fiction free to enjoy books like "War of Honor".
Okay, I get it! You don't like books that are mostly talk, rather than action. Of course, this means you have to HATE "Foundation", by the late Isaac Asimov, and also any other book crafted the same way that one was. Think I'm kidding? Then go read "Foundation"--this time, for comprehension. The book has almost no action; it's all people talking about what's going to happen, then talking about the very different things that DID happen. And that's precisely what you encounter in "War of Honor"--a classic Isaac Asimov style of writing!
Imagine Asimov's "Foundation", written in a time when an SF "novel" isn't limited to less than 150 pages. Imagine what the great Dr. Asimov could have created, if his publisher would have allowed him 500+ pages to work with. What you see, if your imagination is really functional, is something at least a little bit like "War of Honor": a thoughtful, reflective book that had the room it needed to grow up.
If you don't like "War of Honor", you cannot claim to like "Foundation", so you've just demonstrated that you really shouldn't be reading--much less reviewing!--science fiction. My suggestion: go check out romance novels. You'll love them. That will leave those of us who love science fiction free to enjoy books like "War of Honor".
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haris tsirmpas
Skip forward in your reading list if you are looking for a story.
This book spends the first 400 pages dealing with a minor political incident, even by todays standards.. Another 100 pages or so on deployment. A minor skermish and then finally. A whopping 75 pages on "Honor in action" The last page hint of the next book wasn't so subtile either.
*sigh*
This book spends the first 400 pages dealing with a minor political incident, even by todays standards.. Another 100 pages or so on deployment. A minor skermish and then finally. A whopping 75 pages on "Honor in action" The last page hint of the next book wasn't so subtile either.
*sigh*
★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆
hamsa n
This is the weakest of the Honor books. Way to much character dialog that has been done before. Very little action. And most important....VERY little of Honor herself.
Mr. Weber, please return to the dialog & action of the other Honor books & rember why we buy the "Honor" series.
Hint......that would be for HONOR!
Mr. Weber, please return to the dialog & action of the other Honor books & rember why we buy the "Honor" series.
Hint......that would be for HONOR!
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jane emmerth
I was very disappointed with this effort. Way too much "character development" not NEARLY enough action.
Honor seemed to be almost an after-thought. Will not be buying any more in this series unless Mr. Weber gets back to Honor and action.
Honor seemed to be almost an after-thought. Will not be buying any more in this series unless Mr. Weber gets back to Honor and action.
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samantha lavin
I enjoyed this continuation of the Honor Harrington Saga.
I learned more about many secondary characters.
That said this one focussed more on politics than military action
and I was disappointed that Honor does not get a new love interest.
I learned more about many secondary characters.
That said this one focussed more on politics than military action
and I was disappointed that Honor does not get a new love interest.
★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆
dmitry
I give this turkey 1-2 stars, it's about 500 pages too long. More or less nothing much happens for 800 pages or so and then the fighting is brief. To paraphrase the texan 'It's all hat and no battle'
Alan Bale
Alan Bale
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
louise manimtim
Weber is a giant among current genre authors and a personal hero of mine. In Honor Harrington, he has created a strong female role model for all of us in the gay and lesbian community. Even though this book wasn't up to the standard of some of his previous masterpieces, I'm giving it four stars -- because the way I see it, it brings us one step closer to that day when Honor is going to finally come out of the closet.
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roberto cacho
A decent read overall, but the author was a little heavy handed with some of the underlying themes -- especially the importance of allowing peope with "alternative lifestyles" to participate in the military.
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brian daugherty
I know this is like book 10 in a series. but. This is the first one I actually bought and read. I liked this so much I went back and got a few of the others. Pretty good scifi and I don't normally read a lot of scifi.
Please RateWar of Honor (Honor Harrington Book 10)
I think the publishing house sensed an opportunity to make more money with a longer book, but it would have been twice as good at half the length. No doubt I will buy and read the next episode in this saga, but another disappointment will be hard to take. After this one, I just wanted Honor's story to come to an end.