Echoes of Honor (Honor Harrington Book 8)
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tracey duncan
Started as a good series. Well written and beautifully imagined. Solid plot. Realistic protagonists. Then Mr Weber decided to make this into a serial. Not a duology. Not a trilogy. He and his publishers realized they had a money maker on their hands. Now we have a collapsed plot. A conflicting storyline made real with clever claptrap. The laughable reversals we see in this book are insulting to any intelligent reader.
I should have stopped after the first 3.
I should have stopped after the first 3.
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
jen doyle
Too expository. Too many new characters introduced. Very little action. While I like the idea of giving you a sense of all the elements that have to come together in a battle and all of the reasons why things can go right or wrong, I was wishing I had a cheat sheet to keep track of all of the new characters and new weapons.
Field of Dishonor (Honor Harrington Book 4) :: A Call to Duty (Manticore Ascendant series Book 1) :: Space Carrier Avalon (Castle Federation Book 1) :: Shadow of Victory (Honor Harrington) :: War of Honor (Honor Harrington Book 10)
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
ashley herbkersman
As usual the details and subplots and minor characters add immensely to the story. If you like the honorverse series you will love this one. If you like so called space opera you need to try the Honor Harrington series. If your new to the series start with On Basilisk Station.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
21stcenturymom
The eighth book in Honor Harrington saga, is a quick fast paced read and like all the others I've read thus far have been excellent, this is the first time I've read any kind of science fiction novels where there is so many books in the series and it have been a pleasure to have the Honor Harrington series as my first sci-fi series read.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
lauren covarrubias
The cast of characters in this episode is quite large. However, they all play their part as the effects of Honor's absence from the Alliance are explored. And then there is the matter of life on Hell, where rallying the troops takes up most of Honor's time.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
destiny dawn long
Super story I'm exhausted from the attention and anticipation. HONOR HARRINGTON is an amazing character. Fantastic story, incredible story telling, incredible details. A true masterpiece.
Read this series, you will love it!
Read this series, you will love it!
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
lissi
The character development continues & the outcome lifted the heart to see such odds overcome!! Honor is still the centerpiece of the story. But the ancillary characters are the reason she survives.... People she nurtured and trained came through!
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
rafael eaton
PURCHASED THIS BOOK TO REPLACE A PAPERBACK COPY, I REALLY ENJOY THE HONOR HARRINGTON SERIES AND I AM REPLACING MY
PAPERBACK COPIES WITH HARDBACKS WHEN I CAN FIND THEM. BOOK WAS IN EXCELLENT SHAPE AND WAS A GOOD READ FOR THE 6TH TIME
PAPERBACK COPIES WITH HARDBACKS WHEN I CAN FIND THEM. BOOK WAS IN EXCELLENT SHAPE AND WAS A GOOD READ FOR THE 6TH TIME
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
dreams
This book showed why David Weber writes so well. The pacing of the story was perfect and the ending was bittersweet and funny. The excitement builds and the different aspects of the different sides of the war was cool! I have read this book at least a dozen times as I reread the series and I love it!!!
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
laura begani
I like Honor Harrington and wish I was under her command! The stories have a bit more technical descriptions than I understand, but I manage. Following her life is absolutely fun and I'm glad I found Mr. Weber's series. I order before I'm done, and that way I don't have to wait to keep on with her life!
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
erik johnson
David Weber has a way of storytelling in which he alternates between several story lines. In this, as in most of his books, the action story lines are very good, but the non-action ones are a real bore.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
yugandhara
Echo's of Honor by David Weber (Honor Harrington series Book 8)
As always I love this book even three times around. If reading this in order or reading it by itself I always have to keep In Enemy Hands close at hand. These are a companion set that have to go together and they are the turning point for me for these novels.
As I have mentioned before I got invested in the Honor Harrington Series because I like the character of Honor Harrington. Probably in honesty I liked the idea of the character. This was early 90's and we were already seeing many inroads with female characters by then. This character promised to be something almost unique with, and I have to be honest here, being modeled after a famous male character in fiction, Horatio Hornblower.
Honor may have started out as a comparison to that character but it almost seems like David Weber did a sly trick here by further developing the character of Lester Tourville who is with the Peeps but has a brash personality that almost sounds as calculated and colorful as the person Horatio Hornblower had to create when he was around his men.
Throughout this series the character of Honor Harrington has been always best portrayed to us through those who work and die or live around her. It's difficult most of the earlier books to really see her inner self through her own point of view because of the persona she had to maintain to keep the cool calculated person who always tried to do the best with what she was given. These middle novels give us more insight into Honor and a better look at her from within her head as she has to adapt to the new circumstances of being a prisoner of war and trying to keep her head above water.
Even though she has the title of Admiral she has to work hard to maintain the necessary discipline that it takes to drive a multinational force of ex-prisoners to their top form.
David Weber does a tremendous job of creating a world and all the parts that make it run both politically and militarily. Even for someone who is trying to follow the battles and not trying to make comparison's to famous sea battles or plot-lines from other famous fiction it becomes evident that David has a grasp of his world. (Although it's about this time that he does make the admission that he has begun to find it a daunting task to keep up with.)
The Peeps are still in flux, they just don't know it, rebellion looms. There are many characters who are being brought in with strong character and sound values and starting to twist the reader's view of the Peeps. The Manties still have their split in the political arena, but the military is slowly galvanizing and partly because of Honor having dragged Hamish out on the carpet about his views of the plans of Horrible Hemphill. There is still room for that conflict to rekindle, though.
Hamish Alexander has as much as admitted his love for Honor, to himself, despite his loyalty to his wife. Honestly speaking Honor has been way to busy to dwell on the feelings she'd sensed through Nimitz from Hamish.
With everyone certain that Honor is dead they try to move on and forward. It's difficult to say that some decisions that are later shown to be fateful might have been influenced by this frame of mind, but we do get to see the Honor Harrington Medusa class superdreadnoughts come off the line from the Grayson Space Navy's joint effort with Manticore.
The war is winding up on both sides with all the players being showcased in their good and evil glory while Honor is struggling to get out of Hell.
Superb addition to the Honor collection definitely a great read for any fan of Honor Harrington. It's a given that if you have been indoctrinated to these books to this point they will just get better. You must love the Political intrigue and the military buildup descriptions and have at least some understanding of the universe itself.
As always I suggest a person start at Baslisk Station and go from there. If you make it past the first five in the series you're doomed-in a good way.
J.L. Dobias
As always I love this book even three times around. If reading this in order or reading it by itself I always have to keep In Enemy Hands close at hand. These are a companion set that have to go together and they are the turning point for me for these novels.
As I have mentioned before I got invested in the Honor Harrington Series because I like the character of Honor Harrington. Probably in honesty I liked the idea of the character. This was early 90's and we were already seeing many inroads with female characters by then. This character promised to be something almost unique with, and I have to be honest here, being modeled after a famous male character in fiction, Horatio Hornblower.
Honor may have started out as a comparison to that character but it almost seems like David Weber did a sly trick here by further developing the character of Lester Tourville who is with the Peeps but has a brash personality that almost sounds as calculated and colorful as the person Horatio Hornblower had to create when he was around his men.
Throughout this series the character of Honor Harrington has been always best portrayed to us through those who work and die or live around her. It's difficult most of the earlier books to really see her inner self through her own point of view because of the persona she had to maintain to keep the cool calculated person who always tried to do the best with what she was given. These middle novels give us more insight into Honor and a better look at her from within her head as she has to adapt to the new circumstances of being a prisoner of war and trying to keep her head above water.
Even though she has the title of Admiral she has to work hard to maintain the necessary discipline that it takes to drive a multinational force of ex-prisoners to their top form.
David Weber does a tremendous job of creating a world and all the parts that make it run both politically and militarily. Even for someone who is trying to follow the battles and not trying to make comparison's to famous sea battles or plot-lines from other famous fiction it becomes evident that David has a grasp of his world. (Although it's about this time that he does make the admission that he has begun to find it a daunting task to keep up with.)
The Peeps are still in flux, they just don't know it, rebellion looms. There are many characters who are being brought in with strong character and sound values and starting to twist the reader's view of the Peeps. The Manties still have their split in the political arena, but the military is slowly galvanizing and partly because of Honor having dragged Hamish out on the carpet about his views of the plans of Horrible Hemphill. There is still room for that conflict to rekindle, though.
Hamish Alexander has as much as admitted his love for Honor, to himself, despite his loyalty to his wife. Honestly speaking Honor has been way to busy to dwell on the feelings she'd sensed through Nimitz from Hamish.
With everyone certain that Honor is dead they try to move on and forward. It's difficult to say that some decisions that are later shown to be fateful might have been influenced by this frame of mind, but we do get to see the Honor Harrington Medusa class superdreadnoughts come off the line from the Grayson Space Navy's joint effort with Manticore.
The war is winding up on both sides with all the players being showcased in their good and evil glory while Honor is struggling to get out of Hell.
Superb addition to the Honor collection definitely a great read for any fan of Honor Harrington. It's a given that if you have been indoctrinated to these books to this point they will just get better. You must love the Political intrigue and the military buildup descriptions and have at least some understanding of the universe itself.
As always I suggest a person start at Baslisk Station and go from there. If you make it past the first five in the series you're doomed-in a good way.
J.L. Dobias
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
aehemeter
Slow, ponderous, read. The problem is that the small sections devoted to Honor are supplemented by hundreds of pages of war front reporting, much of which are clear examples of war gaming to keep the great war going. The space battles were horrid and the end one where honor stealthed with out using active systems between two groups of enemy ships in order to blow them apart with a Trafalgar broadside battle was just idiotic. If her ploy worked then we can readily assume that the real battle winner against ships is stray asteroids and comets who trickle into formations with "inactive" systems. Get this reader does NOT mean stupid. Biggest problem with the Honor sections is the changing numbers and facts as the story winds through the badly thought out Death Planet prison. The prisoner population fluctuates between 12.5 million to 2.5 million to something less than .75 . We go from officer prisoners to overwhelmingly state prisoners. The one shipment of prisoners intercepted seems to be a mix of crew, not the celebrated officer/high NCO types only. That she is able to "ship out" with all those who wish to come with her is just rancid author hubris. The whole story is so full of holes and anomaly changes that it is truly terrible. Another terrible clash is the enlisted man's escape ploy. The scene setting was impossibly contrived especially in comparison with the two differing captive treatments of the others. JUST UNBELIEVABLE in the extreme. Another war front problem is that with the strain of losses and need to retain forces to control captive peoples, that they were able to get a battle fleet together, this falls apart when you find out the high drain Internal security is making on new warships that they take from the navy to use in 'their' fleet system. For the bloodthirsty the battles were used to slow the war, but the resources just Could NOT be there, thus a gaming battle scenario, not in any way realistic. Did any of the 4 & 5 raters read the book objectively? NOT Recommended! Thanks, Harry!
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
patricia gotta
Captured and sent to a planet named Hell, Honor becomes the focus of a vindictive enemy propaganda machine. They will twist the knife until we all suffer. However- some of her crewmen accompany her; they will make a difference.
But for the family and Navy left behind, this event is crushing....
Meanwhile, Allison Harrington (Honor's mother), has researched genetic flaws that cause Grayson male fetuses to frequently abort. She makes the authorities aware of this, and they map out plans to find cures for the problem. She and Honor's father move their clinic to Grayson and join the busy Steadholding. They play hosts to the Protector, Benjamin Mayhew, the man saved from assassination by Honor. Here is a touching scene of family get-togethers:
' ...the armsmen's presence certainly didn't seem to have stunted the Mayhew brood's boisterous development.
The sturdy eleven-year-old in the lead favored Katherine strongly, although she was already as tall as her mother and promised to go right on growing. Rachel Mayhew had been the terror of the palace nursery in her day, and she seemed to be fighting a stubborn rearguard action against the encroachments of civilization. From a few amused comments Clinkscales had let drop, Allison suspected Honor had been a major influence on the taste Rachel had developed for "unladylike" athletics. She was already training as a pilot, as well, and carried a very respectable grade-point average, but her tastes ran to the engineering and hard science courses which had been traditionally male on Grayson. Even worse, in conservative eyes, perhaps, she already held a brown belt in coup de vitesse.
The old-fashioned term "tomboy" came to mind every time Allison laid eyes on the girl--who was more likely to be cheerfully engaged in taking an air car's grav generators apart to see how they worked than in learning to dance, giggle over the opposite sex, or any of the other things she "ought" to be doing. At the moment, one of her hair ribbons had come untied, and she'd managed to get a smear of dirt on her cheek. Which, Allison reflected, must have taken some doing, since the ground car had brought her and her family straight here from the shuttle pad. Funny. I thought Honor was the only child who could teleport dirt into otherwise sterile environments!
Jeanette and Theresa--ten and nine and the biological daughters of Elaine and Katherine, respectively--followed just a bit more sedately. Jeanette had the same dark eyes as Rachel, but her hair was a bright chestnut, whereas Theresa's resemblance to their oldest sister was almost eerie. Except that Theresa was neat as a new pin and obviously hadn't made the acquaintance of Rachel's secret dirt patch.
And finally, Benjamin reached back into the car and lifted out his youngest daughter. The baby of the family--for the moment; that status tended to be transitory in families the size people were raising on Grayson these days--she was only four years old and clearly another of Elaine's. ' (pp 106-7) Wait until those kids meet a treecat!
These are brief moments between the continuing battles; the People's Republic of Haven will regret the day they captured Honor!
But for the family and Navy left behind, this event is crushing....
Meanwhile, Allison Harrington (Honor's mother), has researched genetic flaws that cause Grayson male fetuses to frequently abort. She makes the authorities aware of this, and they map out plans to find cures for the problem. She and Honor's father move their clinic to Grayson and join the busy Steadholding. They play hosts to the Protector, Benjamin Mayhew, the man saved from assassination by Honor. Here is a touching scene of family get-togethers:
' ...the armsmen's presence certainly didn't seem to have stunted the Mayhew brood's boisterous development.
The sturdy eleven-year-old in the lead favored Katherine strongly, although she was already as tall as her mother and promised to go right on growing. Rachel Mayhew had been the terror of the palace nursery in her day, and she seemed to be fighting a stubborn rearguard action against the encroachments of civilization. From a few amused comments Clinkscales had let drop, Allison suspected Honor had been a major influence on the taste Rachel had developed for "unladylike" athletics. She was already training as a pilot, as well, and carried a very respectable grade-point average, but her tastes ran to the engineering and hard science courses which had been traditionally male on Grayson. Even worse, in conservative eyes, perhaps, she already held a brown belt in coup de vitesse.
The old-fashioned term "tomboy" came to mind every time Allison laid eyes on the girl--who was more likely to be cheerfully engaged in taking an air car's grav generators apart to see how they worked than in learning to dance, giggle over the opposite sex, or any of the other things she "ought" to be doing. At the moment, one of her hair ribbons had come untied, and she'd managed to get a smear of dirt on her cheek. Which, Allison reflected, must have taken some doing, since the ground car had brought her and her family straight here from the shuttle pad. Funny. I thought Honor was the only child who could teleport dirt into otherwise sterile environments!
Jeanette and Theresa--ten and nine and the biological daughters of Elaine and Katherine, respectively--followed just a bit more sedately. Jeanette had the same dark eyes as Rachel, but her hair was a bright chestnut, whereas Theresa's resemblance to their oldest sister was almost eerie. Except that Theresa was neat as a new pin and obviously hadn't made the acquaintance of Rachel's secret dirt patch.
And finally, Benjamin reached back into the car and lifted out his youngest daughter. The baby of the family--for the moment; that status tended to be transitory in families the size people were raising on Grayson these days--she was only four years old and clearly another of Elaine's. ' (pp 106-7) Wait until those kids meet a treecat!
These are brief moments between the continuing battles; the People's Republic of Haven will regret the day they captured Honor!
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
sarahyl
And David Weber's Honor Harrington universe marches on with Echoes of Honor, like an army of undead, unstoppable and thirsting for brains. This time, we get to follow several distinct story segments as Honor and her team struggle to take over Hades and ultimately escape. The action this time around is almost unrelenting, and probably more importantly, relevant to the current story and future engagements.
Weber has a thing for political intrigue, and of course it's no stranger here. Haven's Admiral Esther McQueen is finally sticking it to Manticore and simultaneously juggling her new role as an official member of The Committee of Public Safety. It's her strategies and tactics which ultimately confound Manticore's military, and make her just indispensable enough to be dangerous to the Committee itself. To start the propaganda war with a bang, the new head of Public Information releases a video of Honor being hanged.
This, to me, is the weakest point of the novel, though it comes at the very beginning. Anyone who knew our Honor, would have balked at the reluctant and fearful wretch Haven magicked up; they should have expected the cold defiance she'd likely display at the results of a mock trial, just as she did in her duals. Sadly, everyone in both Manticore and Grayson accept the execution without question, and thus begins Honor's two year escape plan while Haven launches a four-pronged attack at Manticore's outer systems and the holding that started it all: Basilisk Station.
And though the copious battles that follow are as one-sided as expected due to Haven's surprise offensive, the unexpected aid of the new long-range missiles; the missile-pod carriers; and the LAC-carriers that tote around massively improved Shrike-class attack craft, reverse the fortune of at least two of those engagements. There's hundreds of pages describing this attack in various aspects, from setup to execution, and the end result is spectacular: stuff gets blowed up real good.
For all that, all we really know about Grayson is that they, unlike Manticore, dove right in to manufacturing the new prototype designs Honor helped draft in In Enemy Hands. There's also the sticky situation of Honor's "death" causing problems with the inheritance of her titles, and the involvement of her parents in that particular solution is as amusing as it is creative. Her work as a geneticist also unveils just why the Graysons survived on such an inhospitable planet, and just why the male/female birth ratio is so unbalanced. This last has been an unanswered question for at least six novels, so it's great that Weber has finally gotten around to answering it.
Manticore seems only able to revel in its ability to allow its nobility to usurp common sense, and let its adherence to existing methodology threaten to derail research into their new prototype weapons. We see another aspect of Manticore here that has already appeared occasionally, and it's an unfortunate extension of their society. In this novel, we learn that our favorite star kingdom is a year behind Grayson in building the new classes of LAC and missile carriers. We continue to watch as political ties and family connections lead to promotions of complete imbeciles who would rather die in a blaze of vainglory, than escape an unwinnable situation. We watch impotently as one idiotic decision after another puts them at a continuing disadvantage in the war.
And none of this even approaches the effort Honor puts into securing the escape from Haven of not just her crew, but nearly half a million refugees stranded there over the course of last few decades of Haven's offensives. It's a very near thing, and the suspense in these areas was just as enticing as the space battles and political machinations. It's probably one of the strongest novels in the series thus far, because it sits at the crux of what is almost a perfect storm of opportunity as the focus of the war shifts. This is a very long read, and very little is wasted in irrelevant details; everything drives the plot forward, and there's a lot of plot to drive.
That this is technically merely an interim novel while we wait for Honor to enter the fray again, makes its strengths even more unexpected and refreshing. This could have been "Honor escapes valiantly from Hades, and blows stuff up as she goes!" What we got instead were several different layers of simultaneous and decisive events critical to drive the universe forward, not just Honor's character. It's easy to see why Weber's creation has so many fans even at such a ponderous length.
Weber has a thing for political intrigue, and of course it's no stranger here. Haven's Admiral Esther McQueen is finally sticking it to Manticore and simultaneously juggling her new role as an official member of The Committee of Public Safety. It's her strategies and tactics which ultimately confound Manticore's military, and make her just indispensable enough to be dangerous to the Committee itself. To start the propaganda war with a bang, the new head of Public Information releases a video of Honor being hanged.
This, to me, is the weakest point of the novel, though it comes at the very beginning. Anyone who knew our Honor, would have balked at the reluctant and fearful wretch Haven magicked up; they should have expected the cold defiance she'd likely display at the results of a mock trial, just as she did in her duals. Sadly, everyone in both Manticore and Grayson accept the execution without question, and thus begins Honor's two year escape plan while Haven launches a four-pronged attack at Manticore's outer systems and the holding that started it all: Basilisk Station.
And though the copious battles that follow are as one-sided as expected due to Haven's surprise offensive, the unexpected aid of the new long-range missiles; the missile-pod carriers; and the LAC-carriers that tote around massively improved Shrike-class attack craft, reverse the fortune of at least two of those engagements. There's hundreds of pages describing this attack in various aspects, from setup to execution, and the end result is spectacular: stuff gets blowed up real good.
For all that, all we really know about Grayson is that they, unlike Manticore, dove right in to manufacturing the new prototype designs Honor helped draft in In Enemy Hands. There's also the sticky situation of Honor's "death" causing problems with the inheritance of her titles, and the involvement of her parents in that particular solution is as amusing as it is creative. Her work as a geneticist also unveils just why the Graysons survived on such an inhospitable planet, and just why the male/female birth ratio is so unbalanced. This last has been an unanswered question for at least six novels, so it's great that Weber has finally gotten around to answering it.
Manticore seems only able to revel in its ability to allow its nobility to usurp common sense, and let its adherence to existing methodology threaten to derail research into their new prototype weapons. We see another aspect of Manticore here that has already appeared occasionally, and it's an unfortunate extension of their society. In this novel, we learn that our favorite star kingdom is a year behind Grayson in building the new classes of LAC and missile carriers. We continue to watch as political ties and family connections lead to promotions of complete imbeciles who would rather die in a blaze of vainglory, than escape an unwinnable situation. We watch impotently as one idiotic decision after another puts them at a continuing disadvantage in the war.
And none of this even approaches the effort Honor puts into securing the escape from Haven of not just her crew, but nearly half a million refugees stranded there over the course of last few decades of Haven's offensives. It's a very near thing, and the suspense in these areas was just as enticing as the space battles and political machinations. It's probably one of the strongest novels in the series thus far, because it sits at the crux of what is almost a perfect storm of opportunity as the focus of the war shifts. This is a very long read, and very little is wasted in irrelevant details; everything drives the plot forward, and there's a lot of plot to drive.
That this is technically merely an interim novel while we wait for Honor to enter the fray again, makes its strengths even more unexpected and refreshing. This could have been "Honor escapes valiantly from Hades, and blows stuff up as she goes!" What we got instead were several different layers of simultaneous and decisive events critical to drive the universe forward, not just Honor's character. It's easy to see why Weber's creation has so many fans even at such a ponderous length.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
sarahjo
An alternate title for this book could be "The Return of Honor". Basically what this book covers is how, in the time that Honor Harrington has been away, the Peeps have finally begun to get their military organized. With the RMN (Royal Manticoran Navy) still trying to recover from their latest thrust into Peep territory, the PRH (People's Republic of Haven) sets out on a mission to strike at the RMN where it is most vulnerable.
Honor and her other escapees, are stuck on a prison planet. They not only have to overthrow the SS goons (I mean guards...sorry) in charge, but then, to properly escape with all the other prisoners, they must capture, intact, several vessels capable of carrying near a quarter of a billion people.
The book is divided into alternating books, each covering either what Harrington and her fellow escapees are up to, or what is going on in the rest of the universe at large. Though this organization makes Weber's normally shifting focal points a little more understandable, it limits the time spent on Honor - which, in my mind at least, is who is the central character of the book.
This organization also contributes to a "double climax" wherein the events in the universe at large come to a boiling point and finally erupt in several confrontations, and then climatic final fight for Harrington and all those following her. Even so, the ending of the book was actually very sudden. I would recommend having the next book of the series (Ashes of Honor) on hand, because it picks up within a month or so of the conclusion of this one.
The pace overall was very strong and steady, only lagging in a few places. The characters are pretty well done here as well, though I had enjoyed spending a more time with Harkness in the last book, and his character takes a little more backseat in this one.
In conclusion, this is yet another Harrington novel I recommend whole-heartedly. I would actually recommend this as the second part of a pair (Echoes of Honor coupled with Honor Among Enemies). Excellent science fiction as well as a strategic or military book.
Honor and her other escapees, are stuck on a prison planet. They not only have to overthrow the SS goons (I mean guards...sorry) in charge, but then, to properly escape with all the other prisoners, they must capture, intact, several vessels capable of carrying near a quarter of a billion people.
The book is divided into alternating books, each covering either what Harrington and her fellow escapees are up to, or what is going on in the rest of the universe at large. Though this organization makes Weber's normally shifting focal points a little more understandable, it limits the time spent on Honor - which, in my mind at least, is who is the central character of the book.
This organization also contributes to a "double climax" wherein the events in the universe at large come to a boiling point and finally erupt in several confrontations, and then climatic final fight for Harrington and all those following her. Even so, the ending of the book was actually very sudden. I would recommend having the next book of the series (Ashes of Honor) on hand, because it picks up within a month or so of the conclusion of this one.
The pace overall was very strong and steady, only lagging in a few places. The characters are pretty well done here as well, though I had enjoyed spending a more time with Harkness in the last book, and his character takes a little more backseat in this one.
In conclusion, this is yet another Harrington novel I recommend whole-heartedly. I would actually recommend this as the second part of a pair (Echoes of Honor coupled with Honor Among Enemies). Excellent science fiction as well as a strategic or military book.
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
michael pappas
This is my second book in the Honor Harrington novels. As other reviewers indicate, there is too much information. The back stories have no impact on the plot line. They only way to describe it is much too wordy. This a story about a prison brake, not who will control Harrington estate, or what PEEPs are planning.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
ha linh
I've read a few of the reviews before this and have to say that thank god we are not all alike! I loved this book, in fact, I have loved all of the books and can say that this is a series I hope goes on for a LONG time. I enjoy the story and the character. I don't think the world revolves around her any more than the world revolves around Bill Gates but if you listen to the news it certainly does. It's all in how you view the story.
This is a series about a woman who has deep convictions about what her duty is to herself, her country and her job. She's not perfect, she makes mistakes, but she doesn't quit! She doesn't do everything like a god or a superhero but she holds herself to a strict moral code and inspires the people around her to believe in themselves and their abilities. I've had the pleasure of working briefly for a person who had some of Honor's ability to inspire people to be better than they believed they could be and I wish the world had more people like them.
The characters are human, they make mistakes. What makes them better than average is that they keep trying. It's said that hero's are no better than anyone else, they just kept going in spite of the odds.
This is the first author who I can say I have enjoyed everyone of the books I have read. I have just one word to Mr. Weber....MORE!
This is a series about a woman who has deep convictions about what her duty is to herself, her country and her job. She's not perfect, she makes mistakes, but she doesn't quit! She doesn't do everything like a god or a superhero but she holds herself to a strict moral code and inspires the people around her to believe in themselves and their abilities. I've had the pleasure of working briefly for a person who had some of Honor's ability to inspire people to be better than they believed they could be and I wish the world had more people like them.
The characters are human, they make mistakes. What makes them better than average is that they keep trying. It's said that hero's are no better than anyone else, they just kept going in spite of the odds.
This is the first author who I can say I have enjoyed everyone of the books I have read. I have just one word to Mr. Weber....MORE!
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
malthus
Nicely done! The latest installment in the Honor Harrington universe is fun, engrossing, and keeps dragging you from page to page with a story that revolves around people. Mr. Weber manages to have threads for stories run into and through his books so that seeds for the future (and fruit of the past) keep getting sown (or popping up <smile>). I was lucky enough to pick this up at DragonCon and dig into it on the plane ride home (and the week that followed).
The LAC Carrier concept makes an intro and the tech wheel turns again. Honor and Co. deal with life on Hell, and the People's Republic begins tp show its new, competant, military leadership.
A book (and author) I highly recomend
The LAC Carrier concept makes an intro and the tech wheel turns again. Honor and Co. deal with life on Hell, and the People's Republic begins tp show its new, competant, military leadership.
A book (and author) I highly recomend
★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆
robb
First of all, let me say that this was an enjoyable read. However, it was deffinitely not David Weber's finest work. To start with, it was too long for its plot. We could have done without the first half of the novel, which consisted entirely of shocked reactions to HH's "death", which the reader knew was fake anyway. And then lots of the rest was naval action sans Honor! I think this should be classified less as an Honor novel and more as Manties vs. Peeps, with Honor action sequences to liven it up.
I WAS impressed with the fact that the Peeps were finally humanized. You got to see the war from both sides, and I actually started to feel sorry for them. But the end when HH and company finally return home against all odds was too short. I was looking forward the whole time to her reunion with White Haven and how that affected the RMN, but all you got to see was the com transmition when they arrived! Well, I guess that's another book. (See Ashes of Victory)
I WAS impressed with the fact that the Peeps were finally humanized. You got to see the war from both sides, and I actually started to feel sorry for them. But the end when HH and company finally return home against all odds was too short. I was looking forward the whole time to her reunion with White Haven and how that affected the RMN, but all you got to see was the com transmition when they arrived! Well, I guess that's another book. (See Ashes of Victory)
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
cindee degennaro
Baen has now posted twelve chapters from Echoes of Honor. They are intriguing and I really want to finish it. David Weber does a superb job looking at Honor's supposed death from her family, friends, allies, and enemies perspectives prior to going back to her current situation on Hell. Without a doubt, I anticipate this will be one great read and I am quite hopeful that David won't repeat his prior mistake of ending a book too early (or possibly Baen's mistake of putting too many chapters online) thus spoiling the actual book. Either way, I love the character and am quite excited about the book....which better be available in September!
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
david barnes
In _Echoes_ Weber gives us shades of the time Hornblower sailed the recaptured HMS Witch of Endor into a foggy British port by way of escape from the French. While the nicking of the idea is a little obvious, it doesn't detract from the story.
There's a lot of tension here, and a lot to tug at the sentiments of any Honor Harrington fan: treecat messed up, Honor messed up, no medical care available, eagerness to get off horrible prison planet. We do find that Honor continues to get more and more human as the series goes on: more able to be herself and less having to maintain an impenetrable facade; this is a nice touch. It's a lot of fun just watching the People's Navy get repeatedly humiliated, too. Say this for Weber: it's easy to hate his villains.
Fine reading.
There's a lot of tension here, and a lot to tug at the sentiments of any Honor Harrington fan: treecat messed up, Honor messed up, no medical care available, eagerness to get off horrible prison planet. We do find that Honor continues to get more and more human as the series goes on: more able to be herself and less having to maintain an impenetrable facade; this is a nice touch. It's a lot of fun just watching the People's Navy get repeatedly humiliated, too. Say this for Weber: it's easy to hate his villains.
Fine reading.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
crystal velasquez
This is an excellent book, with excellent action and characters, but you should be aware that Weber plays fast and loose with the Laws of Nature.
For example, he uses hydrogen fusion to accelerate his ships to speeds as high as .8 lightspeed in normal space. Now, it's not difficult to compute the maximum speed you can achieve starting from rest with the technology he describes. Assuming that the fuel tank takes up half the volume in the ship, that the fuel is liquid deuterium with a specific gravity of .142, and that all of the energy released by the fusing hydrogen is turned into the ship's kinetic energy (using "gravity impellers", not rockets), the maximum speed you can reach is .016 lightspeed, if you hold back enough fuel to return to base, and .023 lightspeed, if you empty the fuel tank.
He also seems to assume 100% efficiency in the process of converting hydrogen fusion energy into motion of the ship through the "gravity impellers". This is hard to swallow; surely there would be some losses due to friction, turbulence, electrical resistance, and other disorderly processes. To illustrate the magnitude of the problem, if the engines were only 95% efficient, a 6 million ton superdreadnought accelerating to its maximum speed would generate as much heat as 1.7 million megatons of TNT. It would have to tow a radiator the size of a small asteroid, glowing white-hot all of the time.
He also allows fusion plants to fail, vaporizing the ship in a nuclear explosion. It is hard to see how any kind of fusion plant could explode in this manner. An inertial confinement plant explodes the fuel as fast as it can anyway; if it failed, it would stop operating and the ship would lose power. A magnetic or gravitational confinement plant could indeed suffer a containment rupture, but the resulting loss of pressure would cause fusion to stop immediately. If the plasma in the bottle were hot, dense, and large enough, it could explode like any pressurized gas tank and probably destroy the power plant, but I doubt that it would cause major structural damage to the ship. After all, you would make the power plant as small as you could and rely on pumping fuel through quickly to achieve high power levels.
On the other hand, if a "graser" hit the filled part of the liquid hydrogen fuel tank, the liquid hydrogen would instantly flash into superheated, high-pressure gas and rupture the fuel tank. If the fuel tank is half the volume of the ship, as would seem necessary to get anywhere, this would indeed blow up the ship. The ship would not be vaporized, however, merely torn to pieces.
Apart from small problems with the physics, however, these are fine books.
For example, he uses hydrogen fusion to accelerate his ships to speeds as high as .8 lightspeed in normal space. Now, it's not difficult to compute the maximum speed you can achieve starting from rest with the technology he describes. Assuming that the fuel tank takes up half the volume in the ship, that the fuel is liquid deuterium with a specific gravity of .142, and that all of the energy released by the fusing hydrogen is turned into the ship's kinetic energy (using "gravity impellers", not rockets), the maximum speed you can reach is .016 lightspeed, if you hold back enough fuel to return to base, and .023 lightspeed, if you empty the fuel tank.
He also seems to assume 100% efficiency in the process of converting hydrogen fusion energy into motion of the ship through the "gravity impellers". This is hard to swallow; surely there would be some losses due to friction, turbulence, electrical resistance, and other disorderly processes. To illustrate the magnitude of the problem, if the engines were only 95% efficient, a 6 million ton superdreadnought accelerating to its maximum speed would generate as much heat as 1.7 million megatons of TNT. It would have to tow a radiator the size of a small asteroid, glowing white-hot all of the time.
He also allows fusion plants to fail, vaporizing the ship in a nuclear explosion. It is hard to see how any kind of fusion plant could explode in this manner. An inertial confinement plant explodes the fuel as fast as it can anyway; if it failed, it would stop operating and the ship would lose power. A magnetic or gravitational confinement plant could indeed suffer a containment rupture, but the resulting loss of pressure would cause fusion to stop immediately. If the plasma in the bottle were hot, dense, and large enough, it could explode like any pressurized gas tank and probably destroy the power plant, but I doubt that it would cause major structural damage to the ship. After all, you would make the power plant as small as you could and rely on pumping fuel through quickly to achieve high power levels.
On the other hand, if a "graser" hit the filled part of the liquid hydrogen fuel tank, the liquid hydrogen would instantly flash into superheated, high-pressure gas and rupture the fuel tank. If the fuel tank is half the volume of the ship, as would seem necessary to get anywhere, this would indeed blow up the ship. The ship would not be vaporized, however, merely torn to pieces.
Apart from small problems with the physics, however, these are fine books.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
tarren
I actually read this before "In Enemy hands", and was shocked at the opening. DEAD? But the book had only just started! Honor Harrington is harder to kill than that, however.
This book wasn't what I expected, but I don't mean that in a bad way. Although people pick "Ashes of Victory" as a turning point for the Honor Harrington books, this is the first novel where it begins to focus on the lives of those who fight alongside her, or, in this case, in her absence. The universe of Honor Harrington ceases to revolve around one very impressive character, and takes on a life of its own. The glimpse into Havenite politics is fascinating, as is Honor's own family.
If you've never read Honor Harrington before, I wouldn't advise you to start with this one. Try "On Basilisk Station", because it is the first novel in the series, and its a series well worth reading. If you're familiar with HH, you'll get everything you've come to expect from this: great battles, internal struggles, dirty politics, and above all, wonderful characters.
This book wasn't what I expected, but I don't mean that in a bad way. Although people pick "Ashes of Victory" as a turning point for the Honor Harrington books, this is the first novel where it begins to focus on the lives of those who fight alongside her, or, in this case, in her absence. The universe of Honor Harrington ceases to revolve around one very impressive character, and takes on a life of its own. The glimpse into Havenite politics is fascinating, as is Honor's own family.
If you've never read Honor Harrington before, I wouldn't advise you to start with this one. Try "On Basilisk Station", because it is the first novel in the series, and its a series well worth reading. If you're familiar with HH, you'll get everything you've come to expect from this: great battles, internal struggles, dirty politics, and above all, wonderful characters.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
naughty spaghetti
The longest of the Honor Harrington novels so far, this time we get to see not only into the thoughts and emotions of the good guys, but the enemy as well. A small ammount of time is devoted to the remerging "LAC Wing", which gives a good launching point for more in the future. I definitely thought this was more of an emotional roller-coaster than the previous books. Admiral Lady Dame Honor Harrington, Steadholder, Sword of the Protector, and conqurer of Hell itself... Now there's a title! More, please?
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
nanci svensson
I picked this book up at a dollar store without realizing it was the end of the series but it still made a great stand-alone book and only served to make me want to read them all. Excellently written with believable characters.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
fiona fagan
I have just finished this book and it was another excellent example of David Webers work. It's an excellent story with multiple story lines that such a multi system universe would require and the author weaves a rip roaring story line that keeps you reading. The visual imagery and emotional content is so good that the series of books should have been made into movies long ago, assuming the movie industry could do justice to these books. I eagerly await David Weber's next installment. MORE HONOR ASAP
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
jeff
David Weber continues his exellent Honor-series with this book. Allthough he writes more for the techno-people than Lois McMaster Bujold (Miles Vorkosigan-series) it's still one of the best sf series ever. This book picks up where the previous book left off. The expanding political scene gets more and more complex as it seems to be going full circle...
And a special Thank You to Baen books for releasing the first 17 chapters of the book as preview (A mean thing to do! =) )
And a special Thank You to Baen books for releasing the first 17 chapters of the book as preview (A mean thing to do! =) )
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
human04
David Weber gets Honor back to her own forces. She rescues all the prisoners on the prison planet which will eventually prove disasterous to Haven. The Haven military becomes more aggressive. A new and highly effective weapon is introduced, the LAC carrier. Only about a third of the book is about Honor,the other two thirds is like a continuation of, "More Than Honor." This is ok but I personally prefer more Honor. Don't miss the book though. Classic Webber.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
valerie zink
Jean Auel's book Plains of Passage does nothing but develop characters and move them to a new geographic location so that the rest of the series can continue. Echos was very reminecent of this, and while the book is riviting and impossible to put down, and a great chance to brush up on what your favorite characters have been up to, it just keeps setting up the plotline for the next book. Which I can't wait for, of course.
This book did not have a disappointing ending, no matter how the above comment sounds, but I kept wondering why we were told about newplotsubject X and then X was left alone. I assuming we'll be going back to those someday. Soon, I hope.
This book did not have a disappointing ending, no matter how the above comment sounds, but I kept wondering why we were told about newplotsubject X and then X was left alone. I assuming we'll be going back to those someday. Soon, I hope.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
amy tate
What can I say? Mr. Weber has done it again. No matter how many of these books I read I never get tired of hearing about what happens to Honor. The story here was great - and I managed not to die waiting for it after In Enemy Hands! I think this may be the best installment so far in the series. Anyone who likes science fiction that thinks for itself HAS TO READ THIS!! Now, when can I buy Worlds of Honor?
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
mister
Echoes of Honor is one of the best books I've ever read. I enjoy reading science fiction series very much and David Weber's Honor Harington series has turned out to be the best. What makes this series and Echoes of Honor so good is the Honor Harington character. The characters in a story are the most important aspect of a good book. Honor Harington is a great character: she is determined, intelligent, honorable, courageous, strong, and much more. One of the other wonderful characteristics of the Honor Harington series and Echoes of Honor is how accurately David Weber writes the thoughts and emotions of the characters when they are interacting with each other. I want more!!! Give me more now!!! When I read Echoes of Honor I couldn't wait to find out what happens, and now I can't wait for more. I want to know how Honor affects the war!!! I want to be there when she encounters her family, friends, and Grayson. I say again, PLEASE GIVE ME MORE NOW!!!!!!!!!!
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
stephane duplessis
I have really enjoyed the previous Honor Harrington books and I think Webber is a talented writer, but I think he has written too many books too fast. Echoes of Honor has way too much redundancy in the text and the major characters have become card board cut outs. I'm glad that the peeps are starting to get humanized, but there is just too much cruft and pontification in the book.
I suspect that Webber has fallen in love with Honor and really doesn't want to show any 'real' flaws in her, and that has robbed the series of continued character development. Also the series shows the universe as being divided between "honorable people who know better" and complete blathering hate filled idiots. A little bit of grey would be nice.
I suspect that Webber has fallen in love with Honor and really doesn't want to show any 'real' flaws in her, and that has robbed the series of continued character development. Also the series shows the universe as being divided between "honorable people who know better" and complete blathering hate filled idiots. A little bit of grey would be nice.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
scottie
After the rather disappointing "In Enemy Hands," a book that rather visibly showed the author's own lack of interest in what he was writing, Weber returns to the very top of his best form in this the latest Honor Harrington space opera. A good plot, plus well formed and intriguing characters makes this a must for any of Weber's growing fan league. More please like this!
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
lisa lewis keeling
Book was full of one dimensional characters, stale situations and too many unrelated story lines. I felt a real sense of "been there, done that" one too many times. I enjoyed most of Weber's previous Honor Harrington books, but the last two have been real disappointments. As always "Echoes" contains some great space battles, but they fail to carry the other 500-odd pages.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
profess r
Judging from the 22(!)chapters posted so far this is without doubt one of the two or three best novels in the Harrington series to date. It MAY end up being my favorite, depending on how Weber works the plot strands he's set up. We get to meet other prisoners on Hades, the beginnings of Manticore's development of the space equivalent of aircraft carriers, the reason for the Grayson's scewed male/female birthrate, sympathetic portrayals of the Peeps (some are honorable people doing their best in a deeply flawed system, etc.), and finally some interesting ways in which Grayson has advantages over Manticore. Great stuff. I hope that Weber can keep the series going to the end of the Havenite war and beyond (an Andermani conflict perhaps?); in short, just publish the damn thing, PLEASE!
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
hobart frolley
Just finished Echoes and have only read one other of this series (Field of Dishonor) but I will proceed to get and read the rest. Honor's values and humanity are what makes these books interesting. The various subplots complete and incomplete, sets the stage for more adventure. I look forward to watching the Honor Harrington story unfold.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
ana dias
Beaten, maimed, half-starved, yet our Honor assembles what remains of her crew and fights on. I have nothing but respect for this book. Mr. Weber writes with razor sharp clarity (something we don't see very often)and gentle wit. Honor's funeral was stirring for the participants, but for this reader it just made me want to cry.
Thank goodness she makes it back...with a company in tow.
Thank goodness she makes it back...with a company in tow.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
gerald fitzpatrick
Echoes of Honor is one of the best books I've ever read. I enjoy reading science fiction series very much and David Weber's Honor Harington series has turned out to be the best. What makes this series and Echoes of Honor so good is the Honor Harington character. The characters in a story are the most important aspect of a good book. Honor Harington is a great character: she is determined, intelligent, honorable, courageous, strong, and much more. One of the other wonderful characteristics of the Honor Harington series and Echoes of Honor is how accurately David Weber writes the thoughts and emotions of the characters when they are interacting with each other. I want more!!! Give me more now!!! When I read Echoes of Honor I couldn't wait to find out what happens, and now I can't wait for more. I want to know how Honor affects the war!!! I want to be there when she encounters her family, friends, and Grayson. I say again, PLEASE GIVE ME MORE NOW!!!!!!!!!!
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
hobber998
I have really enjoyed the previous Honor Harrington books and I think Webber is a talented writer, but I think he has written too many books too fast. Echoes of Honor has way too much redundancy in the text and the major characters have become card board cut outs. I'm glad that the peeps are starting to get humanized, but there is just too much cruft and pontification in the book.
I suspect that Webber has fallen in love with Honor and really doesn't want to show any 'real' flaws in her, and that has robbed the series of continued character development. Also the series shows the universe as being divided between "honorable people who know better" and complete blathering hate filled idiots. A little bit of grey would be nice.
I suspect that Webber has fallen in love with Honor and really doesn't want to show any 'real' flaws in her, and that has robbed the series of continued character development. Also the series shows the universe as being divided between "honorable people who know better" and complete blathering hate filled idiots. A little bit of grey would be nice.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
evelynn white
After the rather disappointing "In Enemy Hands," a book that rather visibly showed the author's own lack of interest in what he was writing, Weber returns to the very top of his best form in this the latest Honor Harrington space opera. A good plot, plus well formed and intriguing characters makes this a must for any of Weber's growing fan league. More please like this!
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
ginger
Book was full of one dimensional characters, stale situations and too many unrelated story lines. I felt a real sense of "been there, done that" one too many times. I enjoyed most of Weber's previous Honor Harrington books, but the last two have been real disappointments. As always "Echoes" contains some great space battles, but they fail to carry the other 500-odd pages.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
taylor schwarz
Judging from the 22(!)chapters posted so far this is without doubt one of the two or three best novels in the Harrington series to date. It MAY end up being my favorite, depending on how Weber works the plot strands he's set up. We get to meet other prisoners on Hades, the beginnings of Manticore's development of the space equivalent of aircraft carriers, the reason for the Grayson's scewed male/female birthrate, sympathetic portrayals of the Peeps (some are honorable people doing their best in a deeply flawed system, etc.), and finally some interesting ways in which Grayson has advantages over Manticore. Great stuff. I hope that Weber can keep the series going to the end of the Havenite war and beyond (an Andermani conflict perhaps?); in short, just publish the damn thing, PLEASE!
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
sam dugan
Just finished Echoes and have only read one other of this series (Field of Dishonor) but I will proceed to get and read the rest. Honor's values and humanity are what makes these books interesting. The various subplots complete and incomplete, sets the stage for more adventure. I look forward to watching the Honor Harrington story unfold.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
chandler milligan
Beaten, maimed, half-starved, yet our Honor assembles what remains of her crew and fights on. I have nothing but respect for this book. Mr. Weber writes with razor sharp clarity (something we don't see very often)and gentle wit. Honor's funeral was stirring for the participants, but for this reader it just made me want to cry.
Thank goodness she makes it back...with a company in tow.
Thank goodness she makes it back...with a company in tow.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
chris mulhall
Thank you Mr. Weber! And please, sir, may I have some more? I love Honor harrington and her compadres. I am thrilled to find out more about her family, Mac, Mike, ect.
First time readers of the series will not want to start here though, you would get so lost in the subplots without the background that On Basilisk Station and the others will give you.
I had been waiting for something to go terribly wrong (as it inevitably does in fiction) and I got it in In Enemy Hands and I couldn't have asked for a better ending to that cliffhanger.
Now, I can't wait to find out how Weber will end it all, after all a series can't go on forever . . . or can it?
We are waiting Mr. Weber, please write faster!
First time readers of the series will not want to start here though, you would get so lost in the subplots without the background that On Basilisk Station and the others will give you.
I had been waiting for something to go terribly wrong (as it inevitably does in fiction) and I got it in In Enemy Hands and I couldn't have asked for a better ending to that cliffhanger.
Now, I can't wait to find out how Weber will end it all, after all a series can't go on forever . . . or can it?
We are waiting Mr. Weber, please write faster!
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
rebekka
I found this latest Honor Harrington novel fun and enjoyable but it had the air of waiting about it. The line of succession plot line was a nice twist for the future but it seemed like it was just half of the next story rather than a complete story in its own right. I did not feel like very much character development of other characters occurred and everyone was just plodding along until Honor breaks out. Is there anything more that could happen to her? How about the ultimate challenge - children? Is there any doubt that she and the Earl of White Haven are going to have to work out their own guilt and attraction? Let's get on with it!
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
james l
I never order books before they are published, but for David Weber, I break the rules. I ordered this one in early summer and tried to be patient waiting for the release. It was not easy. I received my copy on 9/11/98 and have now read it through twice, foregoing food, sleep, housekeeping and laundry in the process. I am still as entralled with the characters as I was when I read the very first book, On Basilisk Station. An excellent read! Highly recommended for any sci-fi/military history fan. My only complaint, and it's not really a complaint at all, is that some of the plot lines were not wrapped up, leaving me waiting desperately for word of the next book!
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
nancy slocum
Okay, I know that I've reviewed this book before but that was when I had only read 5 chapters. Now that I have read the first twenty, all I can say is: I am completely and totally blown away. If you haven't read anything by David Weber you have to start. He is a magnificent author.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
cinnamon
Weber's characters are the most believable I have ever encountered. Any writer who can make you empathize with his "bad guys," even temporarily, deserves five stars. Echoes will evoke every emotion you possess and, when all is said and done, leave you shouting for more.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
gorana
This whole series is really great, but I must admit I felt real reluctance about tackling this one! I thought that so much had already happened to our heroic heroine this one had to be a real tearjerker. I envisioned all sorts of torture and bad luck continuing to plaque Honor and her loyal crew, and I really didn't want to read anything too depressing.
But the author actually managed to turn the whole book into a triumph of good over evil. Every challange was met by brilliance and determination. The storyline was intrigueing,and there was nothing at all tragic about the way Honor once again blew away the competion. The only bad part was that it left you hanging and a reader absolutely HAD to get the next book, immediately. Well, that wasn't really a bad thing for me, since the sequel was already out and like it predecessors, promises to be top notch entertainment!
But the author actually managed to turn the whole book into a triumph of good over evil. Every challange was met by brilliance and determination. The storyline was intrigueing,and there was nothing at all tragic about the way Honor once again blew away the competion. The only bad part was that it left you hanging and a reader absolutely HAD to get the next book, immediately. Well, that wasn't really a bad thing for me, since the sequel was already out and like it predecessors, promises to be top notch entertainment!
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
curt
I have read every single Honor Harrington novel and I have found them to be absolutely the BEST!!! But I was disappointed in Echoes of Honor. It did not seem to have as much impact as the older ones. I sure hope Mr. Weber will keep churning these books out!!!
★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆
sam carter
I firmly believe that as authors write books that become best sellers & readers follow their series, they reach the point that no one really edits their work. (No one is permitted to?) I love Honor, but this book could easily have been sliced in half, & I see the next one is even longer. The work of Nelson DeMille & Tom Clancy have suffered from this lack of editing down to a good read.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
sarah cooke
I have to say that David Weber gives us what we want EVERY TIME! I don't think that there is a more well put together series out there. Read the first and you'll be hooked. Weber gives you one hell of a ride! You'll fall in love with his Cptn. Is it wrong?
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
lisa laughlin
David Weber has done it again! With 14(!!) chapters posted on the Bean sample site, it is by far the longest sample they have ever given. Thank you Bean!
We see several plot/sub-plot lines developed, meet some interesting new friends, and get to wrack our collective brains with suppositions as to where David Weber is going to take Honor and Co. next. This superb author continues to amaze with his breadth of understanding in human, poitical, and military affairs, and his excellent writing.
Truly, the Honor Harrington series has crossed genre lines and should be recognized for the truly fine literature it is. This is a MUST READ.
We see several plot/sub-plot lines developed, meet some interesting new friends, and get to wrack our collective brains with suppositions as to where David Weber is going to take Honor and Co. next. This superb author continues to amaze with his breadth of understanding in human, poitical, and military affairs, and his excellent writing.
Truly, the Honor Harrington series has crossed genre lines and should be recognized for the truly fine literature it is. This is a MUST READ.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
kotti
So - finally, I get to find out the other half of the story! I see there are a number of people who gripe about Honor, and how David Weber tends to write unbelievable characters. Well, his characters are definitely larger than life, but what makes them so is their depth of commitment to their respective causes. As for the story itself, given the preconditions established at the beginning (from the end of "In Enemy Hands"), it is possible - long odds, but possible. And long odds seem to be Honor's specialty, to the Peeps' dismay and ruination. Go, Honor!
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
maya
As Honor extracts herself from the depths of hell, her supporting cast of characters come to life in a war of plots and sub-plots. Echoes of Honor is aptly named as we get to see the stunning influence Honor has on characters and governments on both sides of the war. Not only do we get the chance to see how the supporting cast has grown and changed in the bloody grip of war, we get to walk in the moccasins of some of the stronger peep characters. Only then did I start to notice the different shades of gray that the war brings out between right and wrong, good and bad, and love and hate.
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
gary allen
Even missing an eye and her left arm, Honor Harrington is still one of the most dangerous enemies Haven ever made. Marooned on a prison planet known as Hell with a handful of her men, she vows to free not only herself, but every other prisoner on the planet. Meanwhile, ignorant of her survival, her adopted homeworld surges to the front of a genocidal war. Not since 'Remember the Alamo!' has a battle cry been so fervently invoked as 'Lady Harrington, and NO MERCY!' In a desperate arms race, the Manticoran Alliance must out-build and out-engineer the Peeps of Haven, or be utterly destroyed.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
jon forster
David Weber delivers another solid member of the Honor Harrington series. As the title suggests, the most interesting chapters in the book don't focus on Honor at all - they flesh out details about other characters and situations. This is to be expected, as Honor is off on the sidelines. I'm particularly interested in finding out in the next book if Manticore's development of carriers has as sweeping an effect on the space navies as aircraft carriers have had in our history on wet navies. Overall, a well done novel that leaves Honor fans hungry for more.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
rainer
Unlike More than Honor, this will be in the Honor Harrington time period; however, it appears from the first four chapters that Honor herself will not be in the book (this could be an error, just an assumption). It looks to be four (or more) separate storylines from other peoples viewpoints (White Haven, Grayson, Harrington Steading) on the circumstances from the point where In Enemy Hands ended. Looks to be a good read and I will purchase it in Hard Cover.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
catherine
I was terribly excited to finally read EOH and was very gratified once I had finished reading it. David Weber has created another great book in a highly addictive series. I can't wait for the next one!!!
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
megankellie
When I started reading the Honor Herrington series, I started with this book. The further I got into the book, the more I started wondering, "Could this really happen?" What he writes is so detailed, so percice, that it makes you wonder if his writing is fact or fiction. I give this book five stars because it is not only one of the best si-fi books as well as battle tactic books, it is also a great book if you haven't read the rest of the HH series!
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
greta schmidt
This latest Honor novel is in my opinion the best yet. Don't buy this unless you've read the other Honor books, you won't appreciate the emotional maturity she's showing. This is my favorite but as one reviewer said the ending was too fast. Can't wait for the next installment in the series. Time for some romance though!
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
mary henderson
Echos of Honor is all any Honor Harrington fan has come to expect. This book provides a new view into both Honor's family and Grayson. Echos of Honor is wonderful for both its new insights into the various chacters in the HH universe and the fast paced plot. There can be little doubt as to who will win when Honor and the Peep's go face to face, but the Allainces position may not be as secure. If you've enjoyed any other book in the series this one is certin to be a great read.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
kristan
This is another very good book in the Honor Harrington series. I like the fact that she is from a higher gravity world and has studied martial arts for many years. This makes it more acceptable for some of the scenes that occur in the books.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
suzanne
I, too, have read the first five chapters of this book that were provided by Baen (Thank you sooo much!!) It looks like it is going to be another soul searching, rip roaring ride! I do not know what I would do if David Weber kills off Honor Harington, she is the most complete character I have read in a long time. I feel as if I know her and all the other characters personally. To sum it all up: YOU CAN NEVER GO WRONG WITH A HONOR HARRINGTON NOVEL!!!
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
roberta sievers
I have been waiting anxiously for the printing of this book. As usual, David Weber did not disappoint. Anyone who has not read Honor does not know what they are missing. While this story tied up some loose ends from the previous book, it stills leaves you hungry for more, which I am sure has been Mr. Weber's intention. He does you in with each one and leaves you wanting more. Please don't take as long with the next installment.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
demisty d
The latest installment of the Honor Harrington saga is the best to date.
This novel marks a turning point in the series. With the events in this volume, her personal life, her professional life, and the war will never be the same again. The Peeps will never survive the Echoes of Honor.
The escalation of political intrigue and Honor's impact in her world make it a must read for any Harrington fan.
This novel marks a turning point in the series. With the events in this volume, her personal life, her professional life, and the war will never be the same again. The Peeps will never survive the Echoes of Honor.
The escalation of political intrigue and Honor's impact in her world make it a must read for any Harrington fan.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
r j kessler
I started the Honor Harrington series when the first book cam out. Ever since then the books David has keep me returning. Echeos of Honor is the best that I have read. Of all the books this is the one where I feel like I truly know what it means to be Honor Harrington, the pain, the love and the devotion to duty that keeps her going when it would be easier to quit. I look forward to more from David.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
illuminatori
The Honor series has kept me on the edge of my seat the whole way. Right before each new book is released I reread the whole series again to be ready. My wallet does not even flinch at paying the hardcover price. Weber's characters are as real to me as my friends and the action and suspense will keep you turning the pages with trembling sweaty palms.
★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆
pavl na chro kov
The most disapointing of the whole serirs. If the characters were 2-D in the other novels, these are .5-D? For once, I could not care less what happened to any of the characters. After all this bad, it still built up some interesting background information that can lead to more fun books in the future; just don't make me pay hardback prices for a background book!
★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆
dirk
Its just not as good as the earlier ones. Reading Echoes (and to a lesser extent In Enemy Hands) I felt like Weber was under pressure to produce a book, not necessarily a good book. I still liked it, the plots were great, but the quality fell off as the book went on. Much more time is spent building up to an event than on the event itself. Even though its long, I felt like it should have been longer.
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆
tony hulten
I reviewed this novel a month or so ago but the boneheads at big river didn't run it. So here is a condensed version. I thought it was boring. Gave me more information then I wanted on things I wasn't interested in. (I'm not loaning money to these people). I read David Weber for things to explode as often as possible. This did'nt do it for me. I expected a great meal, instead got chinese and was stuck with the check.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
jwalant
I have read the entire Honor series. This is one of the best. Beyond the space opera aspect, the Honor series is great in character development and creates people that live and you want to get to know better. I cannot wait for the next book in the series.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
kunal bansal
Great plot development - a wonderful continuation of the story In Enemy Hands. This book opens up a number of new paths for other Honor Harrington books to go down. A truely great science fiction read!
★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆
rebecca bolchoz
What the hell kind of novel is this? Everyone LOVES her. She never makes any mistakes, and when she does, they are obviously NOT her fault. Thats completly not real. Everyone makes a mistake. How about someone outsmarting her in a tactical situation and she loses a whole battalion?
Guess what? These things happen...but obviously not to Honor Harrington. What the hell is Weber thinking? In the next novel, I think he is going to declare her the Godess of the Universe.
Guess what? These things happen...but obviously not to Honor Harrington. What the hell is Weber thinking? In the next novel, I think he is going to declare her the Godess of the Universe.
★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆
carrie williford
“Echoes of Honor” **8
Stereotype / Stock character: Mary Sue: author character, author surrogate, self-insertion
During the Second Battle of Basilisk, Javier Giscard allows the maximum numbers of civilians to evacuate from the space stations. Hamish Alexander-Harrington states that only a supporter of the Office of State Security (State Security Ground Forces, State Security Naval Forces) would destroy the space stations without allowing for an evacuation. This is not what happens in real life, civilians are targeted along with military personnel and evacuations are not allowed because the objective of an attack is to inflict chaos among the population.
Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington’s treecat allows her to use empathy and telepathy against everybody; she never considers the issue of privacy, allowing her to avoid having to use the concept of trust. The treecat once again proves to be annoyingly cute and sickeningly sweet.
Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington obeys the moral code and allows a badly needed courier (cutter, dispatch boat, pinnace, shuttle) to search for survivors even though the ground battle is more important.
Alistair McKeon remarks that Honor gets people to adhere to her unrealistically high standards simply by assuming they will do the right thing and not disappoint her. This is because no good person in the Honorverse wants to disappoint Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington.
The only officer who disagrees with Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington; Harold Styles, is a coward who shouts and shows prejudice. He is never written using reason, logic, or a calm debate when disagreeing.
Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington quickly gains the obedience of the prisoners. They, being people who of course are not vengeful after years of torture and mistreatment, agree to Honor’s demands that military tribunals be held for the Office of State Security (State Security Ground Forces, State Security Naval Forces) soldiers on Hades.
Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington insists on military tribunals for the Office of State Security (State Security Ground Forces, State Security Naval Forces) soldiers who committed the actual war crimes. Then she tells Prestwick Thornegrave and Rachel Yang, commanders of the prison convoy, that the convoy’s soldiers will not be protected by the Deneb Accords (Geneva Conventions, Hague Conventions, Nuremberg Principles). However, she then reverses position and orders the rescue of all Havenite soldiers after the Battle of Cerberus.
The military tribunals Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington orders for the Office of State Security (State Security Ground Forces, State Security Naval Forces) soldiers resemble the Nuremberg Trials held after World War 2. However, nobody seriously questions the legality or morality of holding the military tribunals. The problem of possible war crimes and the concept of Victor’s justice are never considered. Everybody agrees to hold the military tribunals after Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington states everybody will follow legal procedure. The tribunals combine the following: Deneb Accords (Geneva Conventions, Hague Conventions, Nuremberg Principles), Manticoran Articles of War, People’s Uniform Code of Conduct.
Not once does Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington consider leaving a single prisoner behind on Hades; while in real life prisoners must be left behind since there is never enough room. World War 2 escapes are a perfect example of this real life policy. Whenever the topic is mentioned Honor never considers listening to the opposition and/or dissent.
The Havenites are divided into the good and evil people. The good Havenites show wrath and rage about Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington’s false execution while the evil Havenites do not. This is another example of Weber’s increasing use of stereotype/stock characters.
The Graysons are written as practicing honorable vengeance. They applaud when Judah Yanakov makes a speech that states the Havenites deserve to be annihilated. Then Judah Yanakov orders “no mercy” at the Second Battle of Basilisk and of course the Graysons do not commit any war crimes despite having screamed for vengeance at the state dinner.
While it is required to sacrifice yourself in a symbolic and worthless attack for “the honor of the ally/ruler/country/nation/nation state/sovereign state”; you are not supposed to sacrifice yourself for “the honor of the flag”. A nation state’s flag is a representation of the ally/ruler/country/nation/nation state/sovereign state.
Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington has been given too much respect and glory. She is Manticore’s only first rate hero/heroine. Hamish Alexander-Harrington and the other admirals/captains are written as: second rate, third rate, fourth rate, fifth rate, sixth rate (rating system of the Royal Navy); officers.
The use of “moral courage” has been overused.
The treecats have been given too many privileges and exceptions, however they are not held responsible for their actions. Eventually Weber will write that the treecat’s abilities of empathy and telepathy are used for loyalty tests of everybody. This type of loyalty test is already used by the royal guard of the Kingdom of Torch (Congo, Elysium, Verdant Vista), Lara’s Own Regiment. In the Honorverse, privacy is irrelevant and the concept of trust is obsolete. Weber has forgotten what happened in the United States of America:
-- Communist Control Act of 1954
-- Communist registration act
-- Executive Order 9835 (Loyalty Order)
-- First Red Scare
-- House Committee on Un-American Activities (HCUA) (HUAC)
-- Joseph Raymond McCarthy
-- Loyalty Review Board
-- McCarran Internal Security Act (Internal Security Act, McCarran Act, Subversive Activities Control Act)
-- McCarthyism
-- Second Red Scare
-- States Attorney General’s List of Subversive Organizations
-- Subversive Activities Control Board
Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington’s mother, Allison Benton-Ramirez y Chou Harrington, is written as having developed an ego and vanity problem when she states that all males should take delight in pleasing her and causing her happiness. The Grayson religion, Church of Humanity Unchained, always acts in a moral way and never shows signs of corruption or sin among the leadership. Only the exiled extremist factions commit amoral/immoral actions.
The character of Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington’s mother, Allison Benton-Ramirez y Chou Harrington, is long overdue to make a mistake that results in exile and dishonor from all of society. She returns only after having completely changed her ways; she no longer teases everybody.
Weber needs to write that genetic engineering (biological engineering, biological systems engineering, biotechnology) is not evil. The ethics of genetic engineering (biological engineering, biological systems engineering, biotechnology) have always been written in good-and-evil terms. Genetic engineering (biological engineering, biological systems engineering, biotechnology) has always been written as evil regardless of use. “Andromeda” had a balanced view of genetic engineering (biological engineering, biological systems engineering, biotechnology).
Weber has written that technology is only evil if it is misused. He has never written about the evils of cybernetic (actroid, android, bionics, cyborg, gynoid, humanoid robot, robot, robotics) surgery. Cybernetics (actroid, android, bionics, cyborg, gynoid, humanoid robot, robot, robotics) have been written as being irrelevant to a person’s morality. Weber should write that cybernetics (actroid, android, bionics, cyborg, gynoid, humanoid robot, robot, robotics) are seen as dehumanizing and Sharpton is reviled for its heavy use of cybernetics (actroid, android, bionics, cyborg, gynoid, humanoid robot, robot, robotics). In the “Star Wars” universe, cyborgs were viewed with distrust and fear since they were part machine and had been dehumanized.
The Beowulf Life Sciences Code outlaws any serious genetic engineering (biological engineering, biological systems engineering, biotechnology), even for the colonization of heavy gravity (gravitation) planets. Even though the planets in San Martin (Trevor’s Star System) and the Star Empire of Manticore (Star Kingdom of Manticore) were colonized by modified colonists, it is now outlawed by known space. Modifying colonists for different environments is not the equivalent of the genetic slavery promoted by Mesa (Mesa System, Mesa Terminus).
Everything is written in “black-and-white” morality, there are no “shades of gray/grey” morality.
The things that Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington can do without failure:
-- alternative dispute resolution
-- appropriate dispute resolution
-- arbitration
-- bravery
-- character judgment
-- common decency
-- conciliation
-- courage
-- diplomacy
-- dispute resolution
-- duels (Dreyfus Protocol, Ellington Protocol)
-- emotional control
-- ethical behavior
-- external dispute resolution
-- facilitation
-- gliding (glider)
-- honor
-- integrity
-- leadership
-- logistics
-- marksman (designated marksman, scout sniper, sharpshooter (Scharfschütze), sniper)
-- martial arts (hybrid martial arts, mixed martial arts)
-- mediation
-- moral behavior
-- negotiation
-- non biased actions
-- politics
-- strategy
-- swordsmanship (Daishō, fencing)
-- tactics
Honor Harrington
-- HH1 -- On Basilisk Station
-- HH2 -- The Honor of the Queen
-- HH3 -- The Short Victorious War
-- HH4 -- Field of Dishonor
-- HH5 -- Flag in Exile
-- HH6 -- Honor Among Enemies
-- HH7 -- In Enemy Hands
-- HH8 -- Echoes of Honor
-- HH9 -- Ashes of Victory
-- HH10 -- War of Honor
-- HH11 -- At All Costs
-- HH12 -- Mission of Honor
-- HH13 -- A Rising Thunder
-- HH14 -- Shadow of Freedom
Anthologies
-- HHA1 -- More Than Honor
-- HHA2 -- Worlds of Honor
-- HHA3 -- Changer of Worlds
-- HHA4 -- The Service of the Sword
-- HHA5 -- In Fire Forged
-- HHA6 -- Beginnings
Crown of Slaves
-- CS0 -- From the Highlands (Changer of Worlds)
-- CS0 -- Fanatic (The Service of the Sword)
-- CS1 -- Crown of Slaves
-- CS2 -- Torch of Freedom
-- CS3 -- Cauldron of Ghosts
Saganami Island
-- SI1 -- The Shadow of Saganami
-- SI2 -- Storm from the Shadows
-- SI3 -- Shadow of Freedom
Star Kingdom
-- SK1 -- A Beautiful Friendship
-- SK2 -- Fire Season
-- SK3 -- Treecat Wars
Manticore Ascendant
-- MA1 -- A Call to Duty
-- MA2 -- A Call to Arms
-- MA3 -- A Call to Vengeance
Book Companion
-- HOS -- House of Steel: The Honorverse Companion
-- HOSH -- House of Shadows: The Honorverse Companion
-- HOL -- House of Lies: The Honorverse Companion
Jayne’s Intelligence Review
-- JIR1 -- Jayne’s Intelligence Review, Vol. 1 -- The Royal Manticoran Navy
-- JIR2 -- Jayne’s Intelligence Review, Vol. 2 -- The Havenite Republican Navy
-- JIR3 -- Jayne’s Intelligence Review, Vol. 3 -- The Silesian Confederate Navy
Ship Book
-- SB1 -- Ship Book 1: The Havenite Sector
-- SB2 -- Ship Book 2: The Silesian Confederacy
-- SB3 -- Ship Book 3: The Short Victorious War
Stereotype / Stock character: Mary Sue: author character, author surrogate, self-insertion
During the Second Battle of Basilisk, Javier Giscard allows the maximum numbers of civilians to evacuate from the space stations. Hamish Alexander-Harrington states that only a supporter of the Office of State Security (State Security Ground Forces, State Security Naval Forces) would destroy the space stations without allowing for an evacuation. This is not what happens in real life, civilians are targeted along with military personnel and evacuations are not allowed because the objective of an attack is to inflict chaos among the population.
Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington’s treecat allows her to use empathy and telepathy against everybody; she never considers the issue of privacy, allowing her to avoid having to use the concept of trust. The treecat once again proves to be annoyingly cute and sickeningly sweet.
Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington obeys the moral code and allows a badly needed courier (cutter, dispatch boat, pinnace, shuttle) to search for survivors even though the ground battle is more important.
Alistair McKeon remarks that Honor gets people to adhere to her unrealistically high standards simply by assuming they will do the right thing and not disappoint her. This is because no good person in the Honorverse wants to disappoint Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington.
The only officer who disagrees with Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington; Harold Styles, is a coward who shouts and shows prejudice. He is never written using reason, logic, or a calm debate when disagreeing.
Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington quickly gains the obedience of the prisoners. They, being people who of course are not vengeful after years of torture and mistreatment, agree to Honor’s demands that military tribunals be held for the Office of State Security (State Security Ground Forces, State Security Naval Forces) soldiers on Hades.
Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington insists on military tribunals for the Office of State Security (State Security Ground Forces, State Security Naval Forces) soldiers who committed the actual war crimes. Then she tells Prestwick Thornegrave and Rachel Yang, commanders of the prison convoy, that the convoy’s soldiers will not be protected by the Deneb Accords (Geneva Conventions, Hague Conventions, Nuremberg Principles). However, she then reverses position and orders the rescue of all Havenite soldiers after the Battle of Cerberus.
The military tribunals Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington orders for the Office of State Security (State Security Ground Forces, State Security Naval Forces) soldiers resemble the Nuremberg Trials held after World War 2. However, nobody seriously questions the legality or morality of holding the military tribunals. The problem of possible war crimes and the concept of Victor’s justice are never considered. Everybody agrees to hold the military tribunals after Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington states everybody will follow legal procedure. The tribunals combine the following: Deneb Accords (Geneva Conventions, Hague Conventions, Nuremberg Principles), Manticoran Articles of War, People’s Uniform Code of Conduct.
Not once does Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington consider leaving a single prisoner behind on Hades; while in real life prisoners must be left behind since there is never enough room. World War 2 escapes are a perfect example of this real life policy. Whenever the topic is mentioned Honor never considers listening to the opposition and/or dissent.
The Havenites are divided into the good and evil people. The good Havenites show wrath and rage about Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington’s false execution while the evil Havenites do not. This is another example of Weber’s increasing use of stereotype/stock characters.
The Graysons are written as practicing honorable vengeance. They applaud when Judah Yanakov makes a speech that states the Havenites deserve to be annihilated. Then Judah Yanakov orders “no mercy” at the Second Battle of Basilisk and of course the Graysons do not commit any war crimes despite having screamed for vengeance at the state dinner.
While it is required to sacrifice yourself in a symbolic and worthless attack for “the honor of the ally/ruler/country/nation/nation state/sovereign state”; you are not supposed to sacrifice yourself for “the honor of the flag”. A nation state’s flag is a representation of the ally/ruler/country/nation/nation state/sovereign state.
Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington has been given too much respect and glory. She is Manticore’s only first rate hero/heroine. Hamish Alexander-Harrington and the other admirals/captains are written as: second rate, third rate, fourth rate, fifth rate, sixth rate (rating system of the Royal Navy); officers.
The use of “moral courage” has been overused.
The treecats have been given too many privileges and exceptions, however they are not held responsible for their actions. Eventually Weber will write that the treecat’s abilities of empathy and telepathy are used for loyalty tests of everybody. This type of loyalty test is already used by the royal guard of the Kingdom of Torch (Congo, Elysium, Verdant Vista), Lara’s Own Regiment. In the Honorverse, privacy is irrelevant and the concept of trust is obsolete. Weber has forgotten what happened in the United States of America:
-- Communist Control Act of 1954
-- Communist registration act
-- Executive Order 9835 (Loyalty Order)
-- First Red Scare
-- House Committee on Un-American Activities (HCUA) (HUAC)
-- Joseph Raymond McCarthy
-- Loyalty Review Board
-- McCarran Internal Security Act (Internal Security Act, McCarran Act, Subversive Activities Control Act)
-- McCarthyism
-- Second Red Scare
-- States Attorney General’s List of Subversive Organizations
-- Subversive Activities Control Board
Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington’s mother, Allison Benton-Ramirez y Chou Harrington, is written as having developed an ego and vanity problem when she states that all males should take delight in pleasing her and causing her happiness. The Grayson religion, Church of Humanity Unchained, always acts in a moral way and never shows signs of corruption or sin among the leadership. Only the exiled extremist factions commit amoral/immoral actions.
The character of Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington’s mother, Allison Benton-Ramirez y Chou Harrington, is long overdue to make a mistake that results in exile and dishonor from all of society. She returns only after having completely changed her ways; she no longer teases everybody.
Weber needs to write that genetic engineering (biological engineering, biological systems engineering, biotechnology) is not evil. The ethics of genetic engineering (biological engineering, biological systems engineering, biotechnology) have always been written in good-and-evil terms. Genetic engineering (biological engineering, biological systems engineering, biotechnology) has always been written as evil regardless of use. “Andromeda” had a balanced view of genetic engineering (biological engineering, biological systems engineering, biotechnology).
Weber has written that technology is only evil if it is misused. He has never written about the evils of cybernetic (actroid, android, bionics, cyborg, gynoid, humanoid robot, robot, robotics) surgery. Cybernetics (actroid, android, bionics, cyborg, gynoid, humanoid robot, robot, robotics) have been written as being irrelevant to a person’s morality. Weber should write that cybernetics (actroid, android, bionics, cyborg, gynoid, humanoid robot, robot, robotics) are seen as dehumanizing and Sharpton is reviled for its heavy use of cybernetics (actroid, android, bionics, cyborg, gynoid, humanoid robot, robot, robotics). In the “Star Wars” universe, cyborgs were viewed with distrust and fear since they were part machine and had been dehumanized.
The Beowulf Life Sciences Code outlaws any serious genetic engineering (biological engineering, biological systems engineering, biotechnology), even for the colonization of heavy gravity (gravitation) planets. Even though the planets in San Martin (Trevor’s Star System) and the Star Empire of Manticore (Star Kingdom of Manticore) were colonized by modified colonists, it is now outlawed by known space. Modifying colonists for different environments is not the equivalent of the genetic slavery promoted by Mesa (Mesa System, Mesa Terminus).
Everything is written in “black-and-white” morality, there are no “shades of gray/grey” morality.
The things that Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington can do without failure:
-- alternative dispute resolution
-- appropriate dispute resolution
-- arbitration
-- bravery
-- character judgment
-- common decency
-- conciliation
-- courage
-- diplomacy
-- dispute resolution
-- duels (Dreyfus Protocol, Ellington Protocol)
-- emotional control
-- ethical behavior
-- external dispute resolution
-- facilitation
-- gliding (glider)
-- honor
-- integrity
-- leadership
-- logistics
-- marksman (designated marksman, scout sniper, sharpshooter (Scharfschütze), sniper)
-- martial arts (hybrid martial arts, mixed martial arts)
-- mediation
-- moral behavior
-- negotiation
-- non biased actions
-- politics
-- strategy
-- swordsmanship (Daishō, fencing)
-- tactics
Honor Harrington
-- HH1 -- On Basilisk Station
-- HH2 -- The Honor of the Queen
-- HH3 -- The Short Victorious War
-- HH4 -- Field of Dishonor
-- HH5 -- Flag in Exile
-- HH6 -- Honor Among Enemies
-- HH7 -- In Enemy Hands
-- HH8 -- Echoes of Honor
-- HH9 -- Ashes of Victory
-- HH10 -- War of Honor
-- HH11 -- At All Costs
-- HH12 -- Mission of Honor
-- HH13 -- A Rising Thunder
-- HH14 -- Shadow of Freedom
Anthologies
-- HHA1 -- More Than Honor
-- HHA2 -- Worlds of Honor
-- HHA3 -- Changer of Worlds
-- HHA4 -- The Service of the Sword
-- HHA5 -- In Fire Forged
-- HHA6 -- Beginnings
Crown of Slaves
-- CS0 -- From the Highlands (Changer of Worlds)
-- CS0 -- Fanatic (The Service of the Sword)
-- CS1 -- Crown of Slaves
-- CS2 -- Torch of Freedom
-- CS3 -- Cauldron of Ghosts
Saganami Island
-- SI1 -- The Shadow of Saganami
-- SI2 -- Storm from the Shadows
-- SI3 -- Shadow of Freedom
Star Kingdom
-- SK1 -- A Beautiful Friendship
-- SK2 -- Fire Season
-- SK3 -- Treecat Wars
Manticore Ascendant
-- MA1 -- A Call to Duty
-- MA2 -- A Call to Arms
-- MA3 -- A Call to Vengeance
Book Companion
-- HOS -- House of Steel: The Honorverse Companion
-- HOSH -- House of Shadows: The Honorverse Companion
-- HOL -- House of Lies: The Honorverse Companion
Jayne’s Intelligence Review
-- JIR1 -- Jayne’s Intelligence Review, Vol. 1 -- The Royal Manticoran Navy
-- JIR2 -- Jayne’s Intelligence Review, Vol. 2 -- The Havenite Republican Navy
-- JIR3 -- Jayne’s Intelligence Review, Vol. 3 -- The Silesian Confederate Navy
Ship Book
-- SB1 -- Ship Book 1: The Havenite Sector
-- SB2 -- Ship Book 2: The Silesian Confederacy
-- SB3 -- Ship Book 3: The Short Victorious War
Please RateEchoes of Honor (Honor Harrington Book 8)
So I might say Steak=Honor=Beef. So gimmie da BEEF.
dray